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No, I believe I will be turned away, because of that scripture. I'm really upset today. im pretty sure these thoughts are from me and im terrified. i dont know how to come to God and I dont know how to do anything to be Christian, but i feel it to be pointless if i turn and get pushed away. i dont know what to do anymore, i just try to put it out of my head so i can have a seconds peace. i hate myself and everything i am and i dont understnad why i was even born. i dont know what to do, i feel hopeless and I feel like everyone is sugar coating things because they dont want to hurt my feelings. people say they understand but they dont, they havent committed that sin, im almost 100% sure i have and im scared and dont know what to do. please, i need some advice or something.
 
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Caty I am so happy they are not as bad.That is wonderful.
Worrying or not worrying does not indicate anything.
You want Jesus worrying or not, so you have Jesus
You want forgiveness worrying or not, so you have forgiveness
You know you need a Saviour worries or not, so you have salvation.
Jesus will not cast you out, worries or not.
Having worries or not has no bearing on salvation or getting saved.
We come to Jesus just as we are and Jesus will in no wise cast us out.
love
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ive been not showing as much attention to the thoughts and they are not as bad, but i feel like maybe i have REALLY done it cause i havent been worrying about them or anything...
 
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No, I believe I will be turned away, because of that scripture.

John 6:47

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life

John 6:37

All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.



I'm really upset today. im pretty sure these thoughts are from me and im terrified.

Sweetie,
my heart so goes out to you and how infinately more does your Good Shepherd Jesus heart goes out to you.The thoughts are not from you, they terrify you,they ARE NOT from you caty.They are ocd, fear, not you.
Jesus knows this.Jesus has you in His hand and you will never perish.You are so precious.So very very precious.



i dont know how to come to God and I dont know how to do anything to be Christian,

Just come as you are caty.You are christian.Nothing you have to do.
As for coming to Jesus , just come as you are.It is okay to come with ocd, fear, brokeness , frailties, or anything.We come weak and broken and frail, despairing and hurting.We come to our Saviour and we are never ever cast out.I would say , Jesus help me, Jesus help me, for awhile that is all I could say.But it was coming.That is all we do is come just as we are.Jesus will in no wise cast us out.


but i feel it to be pointless if i turn and get pushed away.


That will never ever happen.Jesus said he that cometh to Me I will in no wise be cast out.


i dont know what to do anymore, i just try to put it out of my head so i can have a seconds peace.

This is painful, believe me I know.Wait in Jesus.He leads us to still waters and restores our souls.I thought my affliction would last forever , but it did not.It took longer than I wanted, but it ended , it did not last forever.What you are suffering caty will not last forever.It will end.

i hate myself and everything i am and i dont understnad why i was even born.

I truly understand those feelings.I hated myself too, and I was upset that I was born too.:hug: Jesus restores our souls and leads us to still waters.
He will wipe all tears from our eyes.



i dont know what to do, i feel hopeless

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.





and I feel like everyone is sugar coating things because they dont want to hurt my feelings.

Nope, what we are telling you is absolute truth.

If I thought a person had not hope, I would not talk to them.I would think it is hopeless.But Caty, you are a child of the Living God .Father God gave you to Jesus.Jesus will in no wise cast you out,none will snatch you from His hand and you will never perish.That is the absolute truth.




people say they understand but they dont,

I know that everyone cannot totally understand another person's pain.
However I do know that I went through sheer unrelenting all consuming terror and agony and grief because I thought I was abandoned and hopeless and that Jesus would never forgive me.I thought I was going to live without Jesus forever and be thrown into hell.But I was wrong just like you are wrong.Caty you are safe and always will be.




they havent committed that sin,

neither have you caty.

im almost 100% sure i have and im scared and dont know what to do. please, i need some advice or something.


Caty come just as you are, before the King of Kings ,our Saviour.
Come just as you are .
Jesus will in no wise cast you out.
none will snatch you from His hand and you will never perish.:hug:

lots of love and care
annrobert


John 6:47

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life

John 6:37

All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
 
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Caty, I can see that your mind keeps going around and around trying to figure all this out. I can so relate, as I try to put meaning with how I "feel". Or I try to think things through so much that I end up confusing myself. All I know is that Jesus forgave the very people who were nailing Him to the cross. He said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." He isn't going to hold some thought against you or determine your eternal destiny because of it. Listen to all the verses annrobert is giving you. Jesus is compassionate and loving, and He doesn't desire that anyone should perish. Peter was the one who denied Him in his time of need, and look in the Bible of how Jesus is sure to mention "tell Peter" when He rose from the dead.

I sure tell you, I pray that God has compassion on the intrusive thoughts or bad thoughts that come into our heads, or many of us would be in big trouble. Try to stop focusing on the issue and just put your eyes on Jesus. He loves you so dearly, Caty.

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maybe thats why most people have stopped talkin to me on here, maybe they think ive gone to far.

Caty these forums have just been very slow.No one here thinks you went too far,that is impossible anyway,because you belong to Jesus.Everyone here knows you love Jesus and He loves you and you have salvation.Everyone here cares very much.Just the forums are slow sometimes.Nevertheless it is Jesus who says whosoeverwill may come and drink.It is Jesus who says none shall snatch you out of his hand and you shall never perish.It is Jesus who says he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.It is Jesus who is Truth and whose words shall never pass away.Only Jesus.


i dunno, maybe this was never meant for me

Salvation is for you Caty.Father God has already given you to Jesus and none shall snatch you from Jesus hand ever.It is a done deal.


or i just screwed thigns up along the way. but I dont know if its for me, i just want for this to have never happened, im scared, hurt, angry, and confused...


Everyone of us has problems and makes mistakes and that is why we need a Saviour.Caty you are forever in Jesus hand and He will not let you go ever.That is not possible.Jesus is the Good Shepherd , He laid down His life for the sheep.He knows how and has all power to protect His sheep.
He leads us to still waters and restores our souls.He came to heal the broken hearted and set at liberty those who are bruised.Caty You belong to Jesus and and nothing will ever seperate you from His Love.Nothing will.
That is the truth.Jesus loves you and you are so precious to Him.
I understand about feeling scared and angry and confused, and I am so sorry you are suffering.It will not last forever Caty.

lots of love and hugs
annrobert

Hebrews 4:16

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Romans ch 8


31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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Caty,
you do not have to listen to preaching if it scares you or causes you pain.Just take part in the worship if you are able to and then feel free to wait outside or in the car or go home,and even if the worship caused you pain , do not feel you have to stay.Jesus understands your pain.If you could have some people pray with you that would be awesome.Call out to Jesus to help you at any time.Myself I really like reading the gospel of Mathew and John as well as the psalms.And please get some kind of help if you can, at least consider it.I am praying for you Caty and Jesus loves you so very very much.pm me anytime.
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These are the verses I would like to share for today:

Joshua 1:9 (KJV)
Have I not commanded thee? Be strong and of good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

Proverbs 3:24-26 (KJV)

24) When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet.
25) Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
26) For the LORD shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

I really needed to see/read/absorb these verses as I just started a new job and I'll be having a lot of responsibility- something I'm not so much used to, and I'm not trained in this field- but by reading these, I have hope that God is with me- I do not need to be afraid of failing or that I am not where I need to be.
God is with me.

That's the most comforting thing for me.
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See, I don't think you all have ever been in MY position. I know that in anger (bc of my situation) I have meant these thoughts or from some other reason. Sometimes I cant even really remember them. I'm so scared bc I know that I will never be able to be a Christian. It hurts so bad when I really think about it, especially on my bad days. I cant change it and I know that you all dont believe that I have done it but I jsut know and I knwo I should proabably just give up. whats the point if you can never be saved? I have lived a pointless life, and I never will have a purpose or anything. I get so angry at God soemtimes because I was trying to straighten myself up and come to Him and this is what happened, what was the purpose, why did He even have me come to Him---for this torture? I just dont get it. Im tired of my life (mainly because it has no quality).
 
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See, I don't think you all have ever been in MY position.

Jesus is touched by our infirmites and weaknesses.Jesus bore our every sin on the cross and took our punishment for them.Jesus died for you Caty.Jesus understands and cares deeply for you.You came to Jesus and Jesus will never cast you out.You are in Jesus hand and none will snatch you out and you shall never persih.Not because you are strong, but because of Jesus power and love, because Jesus id strong.Jesus is our righteousness.



I know that in anger (bc of my situation) I have meant these thoughts or from some other reason.

Caty regardless how you felt while having the thoughts.They are not your opinion. Your opinion is that you want mercy
you want forgiveness
you want salvation
you know you need a Saviour
you believe in Jesus
you want Jesus
You will never be cast out.


Sometimes I cant even really remember them.

Neither does Jesus.They are washed away forever.



I'm so scared bc I know that I will never be able to be a Christian.


Jesus said he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
You are already in Jesus hand and none will snatch you out.
Done deal.
Jesus said ,It is finished.
ocd changes nothing
fear changes nothing
doubt changes nothing
weakness changes nothing
Jesus died for us
and rose again
because we all need a Saviour
You are safe Caty.

It hurts so bad when I really think about it, especially on my bad days.

I know this affliction hurts so bad, I understand.Ocd is a terrible affliction.:hug:


I cant change it and I know that you all dont believe that I have done it but I jsut know and I knwo I should proabably just give up.

That is what I was scared of before too, but I was wrong.It was just religious ocd.

whats the point if you can never be saved?

Caty you are saved, Jesus will not cast you out and you will never perish.

I have lived a pointless life, and I never will have a purpose or anything.

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.


I get so angry at God soemtimes because I was trying to straighten myself up and come to Him and this is what happened,

Jesus totally understands and is not upset about your feelings of pain or anger.

Hebrews 4:15

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.



what was the purpose,

John 3:17

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

why did He even have me come to Him---

Romans 11:29

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.



for this torture?

no to heal the broken hearted and to set at liberty those who are bruised and to give rest to you and restore souls, and to lead to still waters.
Jesus cares deeply for you Caty.He is protecting you and keeping you safe.


I just dont get it. Im tired of my life (mainly because it has no quality).

Isaiah 25:8

He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

Revelation 21:4

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


Jesus loves you Caty and you are safe in Him.:hug:

love
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thanks again Ann, I dont want you to think that I dont appreciate what you try to help me with on here because I do. But I can't change what thoughts i know Ive been careless with thinking and the ones that I have probably meant. I dont think there could possibly be any saving here, so Im gonna just try to stop worrying anymore.

Caty you are in Jesus hand and safe just the way you are already.
Nothing can change that.


Hebrews 4:15

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.


Jesus said , All that the Father has given Me will come to Me and he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out


Romans 8
31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?


32He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,


Mathew 11

28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.


Psalm 23


1The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever

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HI Caty,
What do you mean by "careless thoughts?" As if you could somehow unthink them or stop them from popping into your brain. OCD spikes are uncontrolled events. All human beings have thoughts that disturb, unsettle and disgust them pop into their heads. Even people without OCD. The difference is that people without OCD don't have a faulty alarm system that grabs onto the thoughts and turns them into a theme of constant torture.
Having OCD thoughts in our heads in no way means that we agree with them, want them there or desire to act upon them. If we did we couldn't possibly experience torture over their presence.
Everytime you give them attention by trying to solve them, get rid of them, search for something to reassure yourself that they aren't true or valid you are in essence taking a big yellow highlighter and marking them in your brain as something urgent and thereby you are feeding the cycle of OCD. Those are the things that you need to stop doing.
Let the accusations lay there, leave them alone, don't pick at them or they'll only bleed all the more. Then... get on with doing those things that you know to be right and true and good. "If you love me keep my commandments." Faith is about allegiance to God. It's about walking in a way that pleases and honors Him. It's not about comfortable feelings of ease. The greatest demonstration of faith is walking, even when we don't feel like walking. OCD can't stop you from doing these things. It can only blab a bunch of invalid nonsense in your head. When it does, you just have to do your level best to ignore it... even with the alarms blaring at full strength. It takes guts, grit and persistence to ignore the terror. To live with the presence of the thoughts for as long as it takes for your brain to get used to their presence.
I still haven't heard from you as to what practical steps you are taking to manage this disorder - as a disorder.
I guarantee you that if I hadn't done this myself, that I'd still be in the place where you are right now.
When has all this compulsive reassurance seeking, which is part and parcel of the cyclical symptomology of this disorder, helped you?
Isn't it time to try a different approach?
Actually, what you said about stopping worrying about it, is the nearest you've come to properly responding to the obsessions. This is because they aren't worthy of your attention. If you want to make them important by ruminating on them they will just get all the more stuck in your head.
I know that I probably seem mean, uncaring or insensitive. In reality, I hate that you are suffering and I want you to learn to manage this disorder instead of having it manage you.
The reason I don't offer you scriptural reassurance is because I'm well aware that you already know every thing that I could offer you. But my greatest reason for not doing so is that I don't want to cooperate with your OCD in any way. I don't want to keep the cycle going by helping you to check just one more time to see if your faith is still locked. This would be akin to me checking the lock on the door for someone who obsesses about unlocked doors. If I go and check that lock for them I make their fear that it might still be unlocked more valid and real and in doing so I perpetuate their OCD cycle.
I know you feel compelled to keep asking these questions, but don't you see that this is the nature of the disorder. That's how it got it's name - Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Does any thing that I'm saying to you make sense? I'm praying that it does. I want very badly for you to feel better and I'll not stop asking the Lord to show you how to manage your OCD.
Love you!
Mitzi

thanks again Ann, I dont want you to think that I dont appreciate what you try to help me with on here because I do. But I can't change what thoughts i know Ive been careless with thinking and the ones that I have probably meant. I dont think there could possibly be any saving here, so Im gonna just try to stop worrying anymore.
 
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HI Caty,
What do you mean by "careless thoughts?" As if you could somehow unthink them or stop them from popping into your brain. OCD spikes are uncontrolled events. All human beings have thoughts that disturb, unsettle and disgust them pop into their heads. Even people without OCD. The difference is that people without OCD don't have a faulty alarm system that grabs onto the thoughts and turns them into a theme of constant torture.
Having OCD thoughts in our heads in no way means that we agree with them, want them there or desire to act upon them. If we did we couldn't possibly experience torture over their presence.
Everytime you give them attention by trying to solve them, get rid of them, search for something to reassure yourself that they aren't true or valid you are in essence taking a big yellow highlighter and marking them in your brain as something urgent and thereby you are feeding the cycle of OCD. Those are the things that you need to stop doing.
Let the accusations lay there, leave them alone, don't pick at them or they'll only bleed all the more. Then... get on with doing those things that you know to be right and true and good. "If you love me keep my commandments." Faith is about allegiance to God. It's about walking in a way that pleases and honors Him. It's not about comfortable feelings of ease. The greatest demonstration of faith is walking, even when we don't feel like walking. OCD can't stop you from doing these things. It can only blab a bunch of invalid nonsense in your head. When it does, you just have to do your level best to ignore it... even with the alarms blaring at full strength. It takes guts, grit and persistence to ignore the terror. To live with the presence of the thoughts for as long as it takes for your brain to get used to their presence.
I still haven't heard from you as to what practical steps you are taking to manage this disorder - as a disorder.
I guarantee you that if I hadn't done this myself, that I'd still be in the place where you are right now.
When has all this compulsive reassurance seeking, which is part and parcel of the cyclical symptomology of this disorder, helped you?
Isn't it time to try a different approach?
Actually, what you said about stopping worrying about it, is the nearest you've come to properly responding to the obsessions. This is because they aren't worthy of your attention. If you want to make them important by ruminating on them they will just get all the more stuck in your head.
I know that I probably seem mean, uncaring or insensitive. In reality, I hate that you are suffering and I want you to learn to manage this disorder instead of having it manage you.
The reason I don't offer you scriptural reassurance is because I'm well aware that you already know every thing that I could offer you. But my greatest reason for not doing so is that I don't want to cooperate with your OCD in any way. I don't want to keep the cycle going by helping you to check just one more time to see if your faith is still locked. This would be akin to me checking the lock on the door for someone who obsesses about unlocked doors. If I go and check that lock for them I make their fear that it might still be unlocked more valid and real and in doing so I perpetuate their OCD cycle.
I know you feel compelled to keep asking these questions, but don't you see that this is the nature of the disorder. That's how it got it's name - Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Does any thing that I'm saying to you make sense? I'm praying that it does. I want very badly for you to feel better and I'll not stop asking the Lord to show you how to manage your OCD.
Love you!
Mitzi
Excellent post. Please listen to Mitzi, Caty. This is an excellent post. I wish somehow we could make it a "sticky" in fact.
(I know your OCD will try to convince you that somehow YOUR case or your thoughts are somehow different, but this is just how OCD operates.)
 
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I knwo that I've gotten mad at God and had the thoughts or kidna played "mind games around them, but in the end it kidna releases some tension. what I mean about careless thoughts is kidna like the mind games, like saying everything realted to it but not saying something really bad, so it kinda takes the stress off me but int he end sometimes i let myself say something bad about the Holy Spirit. Or when I really ponder on things, those useless thoughts and wonder if my accussations (thoughts)---like "what if they were fact" kinda thing, if that makes sense.
 
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HI Caty,
It's not unusual to get mad at God when we are going through this. We question how He could allow us to go through this pain. The thoughts will come on pretty strong during those times of extreme distress. I'm not sure if I'm totally clear on what you are trying to tell me but let me take a stab at it.
It sounds like you were experimenting with allowing yourself to think about the thoughts or to say or think thoughts that are very closely related to them in order to kind of test your reaction to them. Then maybe you've allowed yourself to take that a step farther and actually say the blasphmemous thought, again in order to see how it makes you feel to kind of test whether you really mean them or not. When you do that it may sound so absurd or out of character in regard to how you really feel or what you really desire that it may wake you up temporarily to just how really ridiculous the whole thing is and this would create a temporary sense of relief. But then.... the OCD kicks in again and presses you to question or doubt the motive behind why you did that. "Did I really mean those things? Would a person who truly loves God ever allow something like that to slip out of their mouth? Is this all a sign that I am not or ever was a true Christian? Oh no.. is it too late for me now?"
Also, another possibility is a sort of tourettes like response to the presence of the thoughts. The pressure of having them there and the fear that they might slip out can create a feeling so intense that letting them out seems to relieve it. Tourettes and OCD are closely linked in some people.
Either way it doesn't matter because you are so incredibly upset about having them.
Did you know Caty, that one exposure exercise for pure "O" OCD is to expose yourself, on purpose, to the thoughts that are creating the fear?
For instance if my unwanted/instrusive spike happened to be something like: "Drop your baby" and having that thought made me terrified that I really wanted to do that or that I would act upon it then in order to do this type of exposure exercise I would have to say something to myself like -
"Yes, Mitzi, the reason you had that thought is that you can't wait to drop your baby. As a matter of fact maybe you want to drop everyones baby. Maybe you could get a job working at a day care and while you're there, before any body could stop you,you could pick up a whole bunch of babies and run all over the place dropping them here and there before any one could catch you."
Now.. doing that exposure exercise doesn't mean that I really want to drop babies. What I'm doing is purposely exposing my brain to the thought in order to habituate it to it's presence. It's just like if you happened to be afraid of spiders. (I am by the way) If I really want to get over my spider phobia I must purposely expose myself to them. In doing so my brain eventually gets used to seeing them all the time and it quits freaking out about them. I treat my spider fear by gardening. I have to pull weeds and sometimes spiders actually walk over my skin when I'm doing that. It's really hard at first but after doing it over and over I'm able to pull weeds with very little fear of the spiders.
So what you might have been doing unwittingly was a form of exposure whether you knew it or not and doing that doesn't mean that you agree with the thoughts or that you desire for them to be true of you. They have nothing to do with your true character or deepest yearnings. They are the exact opposite and that is why they freak you out.
I hope this helps.
Love you!
Mitzi
 
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Your Welcome Kimberly. Just know that I struggle to take my own advice from time to time but the key is to go back to square one and do the thing that really works.
I'm really thankful though, that the post encouraged you. God is so good to encourage our hearts through one another. This forum has been an enormous encouragement to me so I find it an enormous priviledge to be a part of it.
God Bless you too!
Mitzi


Thank you, Mitzi! I needed to hear what you had to say this morning. I definitely needed the reminder that it's the OCD. I think I am going to print it out and read it throughout the day when I get back in my worry and fear state.

God bless you today,
Kimberly
 
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No, ive never said them out loud. but it's like i think bad words and cuss words so I will not say anything that is bad about the Holy Spirit, but then the word Spirit will slip into those thoughts and Ill feel bad. thats what i mean or ill start thinking about them like they were real (like what if that were really true about Him) get me now? then i feel bad...
 
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