okay.

[Caty]

so i went to a funeral today and its haunted me, see the family doesnt know God (please pray for them!!) they are some good friends of mine. they had an unexpected death in the family, & it got me to thinking about death & all these bad things about God were runnign through my head(bc when I hear preaching that happens) it struck me a little harder today for some reason, i dunno it just made me feel worse about myself. i just wish i could know that even with these thoughts that i coudl still be saved. im so confused about where i am in life and everything i want to be right with God and stuff but i really really really think its to late, its like i almost know its to late. im pretty scared and ive cried almost all day bc i just don tknow what i want. i know you all tell me that those scriptures prove that God will never leave me or that i can always get saved if i wanted to but i read an article a woman wrote and it said something like, ' none of the scriptures in John change the one of teh uf-sin." meaning no matter what scriptures about salvation if you have dont that then bascially forget you. can you all help me with that?

 

[annrobert]

so i went to a funeral today and its haunted me,

Funerals can be that way particularly for someone already going through fear or ocd .

see the family doesnt know God (please pray for them!!) they are some good friends of mine. they had an unexpected death in the family,

caty I am very sorry to hear about this.

& it got me to thinking about death & all these bad things about God were runnign through my head(bc when I hear preaching that happens) it struck me a little harder today for some reason, i dunno it just made me feel worse about myself. i just wish i could know that even with these thoughts that i coudl still be saved.

You can be and you are caty.Jesus promises it.


im so confused about where i am in life and everything i want to be right with God

He loves you caty and sees this desire in you.


and stuff but i really really really think its to late, its like i almost know its to late.

No , that is just the fear causing the doubt and confusion.


im pretty scared and ive cried almost all day bc i just don tknow what i want.

I know how this fear and torment is so painful .
It is all the torment and fear that Jesus will reject you that you want to end.
You want to know Jesus will accept you and He does accept you caty,with open arms and welcoming.


i know you all tell me that those scriptures prove that God will never leave me or that i can always get saved if i wanted to

Yes the scriptures do prove that.


but i read an article a woman wrote and it said something like, ' none of the scriptures in John change the one of teh uf-sin."

I do not understand why people write these things or say these things, they cause so much pain and anguish and hurting people.
This type writing and talking generally hurt people,they do not help.
I think they are unhealthy to read them,I will not read them.
Why write up a whole a whole article like that?
How many people will it terrify?
How many people will it help?
These articles that people write up will never change Jesus words.
He that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.




meaning no matter what scriptures about salvation if you have dont that then bascially forget you. can you all help me with that?

caty that sin does not and will never apply to anyone who comes to Jesus.
Jesus said,
He that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
Jesus is Truth.
Jesus words will never pass away.
Nothing cancels Jesus words.
Jesus words will not pass away.
Jesus said,
He that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.

 

[Catherineanne]

so i went to a funeral today and its haunted me, see the family doesnt know God (please pray for them!!) they are some good friends of mine. they had an unexpected death in the family, & it got me to thinking about death & all these bad things about God were runnign through my head(bc when I hear preaching that happens) it struck me a little harder today for some reason, i dunno it just made me feel worse about myself. i just wish i could know that even with these thoughts that i coudl still be saved. im so confused about where i am in life and everything i want to be right with God and stuff but i really really really think its to late, its like i almost know its to late. im pretty scared and ive cried almost all day bc i just don tknow what i want. i know you all tell me that those scriptures prove that God will never leave me or that i can always get saved if i wanted to but i read an article a woman wrote and it said something like, ' none of the scriptures in John change the one of teh uf-sin." meaning no matter what scriptures about salvation if you have dont that then bascially forget you. can you all help me with that?

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. ...

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8

 

[Caty]

I guess I just can't escape this feeling, whenever im mad or whenever thigns dont go my way or when i hear something bad happen in the world, i begin to think bad thoughts about the Holy Spirit, how can a person like that get saved or how can they be saved. i dont want to be acting like this but it doesn't change the fact that it happens. i feel like a terrible, evil, forgotten, dumb, worlthless person who will go to Hell when I die. I hate this and I just wish it could be over, I mean how do I know its God and not my ocd convicting me or things?

 

[Catherineanne]

I hate this and I just wish it could be over, I mean how do I know its God and not my ocd convicting me or things?

I know a lot of Christians believe in a literal hell after we die, but I don't. My denomination says that there is no such place, and I am happy to agree with that.

I think the best answer I can give to your question is this; having lived in hell in this life, why would God send you to hell in the next?

The testing we are given here on earth is to refine us into pure gold so that once we enter eternity we will not need further refining. We need to trust God on this one, and most of all trust to his love, mercy and compassion. They will never fail.

Sometimes we have to hold onto that belief, even when it is contrary to every single feeling we have. Feelings can lead us astray; God never will.

I wish you well.

 

[RobertZ]

I know a lot of Christians believe in a literal hell after we die, but I don't. My denomination says that there is no such place, and I am happy to agree with that.

Catherineanne, dont take this the wrong way but you need to find a church that preaches the truth of Gods word because the one your currently attending is certainly not preaching from the same Holy Bible that I have in my house.

The Bible warns in the last days that many churches will apostasize from the true faith and I see this happening right now at a very rapid pace with all these feel good preachers who dont want their congregation to believe in the same Hell that Jesus repeatedly warns so many times about going to.

 

[Caty]

this evening my friend and i were watching this youtube video of Kathy Griffin on soem late show and you all know how she said that bad things about Jesus at the emmys last year, well iftblanked it out when she repeated it on the late show and i said, "yeah, she said (the fword) Jesus." but I didnt say it, I bleeped my self then I started thinking what if i really said something about the Holy Spirit and i cant remember exactly im pretty sure i didnt but I dont know, do thigns like this happen to anyone else. like now i will not update my myspace or anything bc im afraid ill put something blasphemous on there.

 

[peacebwithu2]

Catherineanne, dont take this the wrong way but you need to find a church that preaches the truth of Gods word because the one your currently attending is certainly not preaching from the same Holy Bible that I have in my house.

The Bible warns in the last days that many churches will apostasize from the true faith and I see this happening right now at a very rapid pace with all these feel good preachers who dont want their congregation to believe in the same Hell that Jesus repeatedly warns so many times about going to.

Robert i agree with you but i want to say that the mainstream Anglican Church such as the Church Of England does believe in it there are a variety of views regarding it in those churches but generally you will fine that they do i just wanted to say that not to dispute Robert or Catherine but in defense of the mainstream Anglican Church's ...

 

[RobertZ]

Robert i agree with you but i want to say that the mainstream Anglican Church such as the Church Of England does believe in it there are a variety of views regarding it in those churches but generally you will fine that they do i just wanted to say that not to dispute Robert or Catherine but in defense of the mainstream Anglican Church's ...

I understand, I just hate to see so many people thinking that hell is not a real place or not a place to really be feared. Its just sad.

 

[peacebwithu2]

I understand, I just hate to see so many people thinking that hell is not a real place or not a place to really be feared. Its just sad.

i understand what u mean i hope u r doing better

 

[Liftyourhands7]

Praying for you, Jan

 

[Liftyourhands7]

Hi Caty,

I just wanted to let you know that I have had OCD for over 25 years, we sound like we have the same kind, I have pure"O" the thoughts that go through my head are so hideous that I have also struggled with the thought that "I am not a Christian" and the horrible question of "how can God love someone like me, I constantly look for reassurance, we with OCD do this, we have his word which should be reassurance enough but for we with OCD we think it is for everyone else but not for us, which could not be further from the truth, not only do we have OCD to deal with but we also have an enemy who preys on our weaknesses. I have not read all of your posts so may I ask you if you have sought out a good Doctor and are you on any meds for OCD? I want to tell you what I have held on to which many here have also told you, God says He will never leave you or forsake you, now if we were holding on to him we would be in trouble, but that is not the way it is, He in mercy and grace is holding on to us, believe it or not God is still using me in ministry, I am a worship leader in my church and he has allowed me to make 2 worship CD's I am not bragging of anything in myself ,I am bragging on his love for you and me, right now I am having a bad bout, but I believe God and not my OCD. We have to press on and not let OCD bully us because believe me it will. Jesus does love you so much don't give up girl, for when you are weak He is strong. Jan

 

[Caty]

thanks Jan, I'm worrying tonight if I dont like these thoughts because they are bad about God or if it's because I don't want to got to Hell. Which I'm pretty sure it's the second one, I just don't understand why this had to happen when I was coming to God.

 

[Liftyourhands7]

thanks Jan, I'm worrying tonight if I dont like these thoughts because they are bad about God or if it's because I don't want to got to Hell. Which I'm pretty sure it's the second one, I just don't understand why this had to happen when I was coming to God.

Hi Caty,

That's ok because guess what, God is not willing that any should perish, thats why He told us about hell because he does not want anyone to go there, God says in the Bible that perfect love casts out all fear, He loves you perfectly, He knows that we do not know how to love perfectly and get this He loves us anyway with all of our doubts with all of our fears and even with our OCD problems, don't let your thoughts stop you from coming to him he won't turn you away,and he will never leave you, you won't always feel the way you do right now, feelings especially coupled with OCD can be very deceptive and confusing and I can see this is what you are going through right now, You know I never thought I would say this but OCD has caused me to lean on the Lord I will run to him not away from him for He is mine and I am His and the same holds true for you, no matter what the "bully" OCD tries to tell us. Jan

 

[the.Sheepdog]

Caty Honey, Are you a Christian? I mean have you said to God that you believe that He came to earth to take your sins from you and pay the price for them himself? If you believe He is God, and that He died for your sins past, present, and future, and if you accepot His gift of salvation to you then you are saved. That "saved" means you are saved from ever having to worry about going to hell.

You can do nothing to get to hell. Hell is not a place for you. Once you are a Christian; Hell is not a place you ever have to worry about ever again. I will say that again.

Once you are a Christian; hell is not a place you EVER have to worry about again!!

You can do nothing, think nothing, say nothing, or write nothing ever that will get you to hell. EVER. EVER NEVER!

 

[Caty]

I believe I did that in the past, but I'm afraid I might not totally believe that now.

 

[RobertZ]

I believe I did that in the past, but I'm afraid I might not totally believe that now.

Caty I think its about time you and I both stop looking to what we did or didnt do in the past and start looking to Christ as the Bible commands us to do.

Repent and believe the Gospel is God's commandment to everyone. If you know your a sinner in need of a savior then its because God has opened your eyes to see that and if you will call upon the name of the Lord you will be saved because the Bible says that you will and the Bible will not and cannot lie.

The enemy works through our feelings and emotions and if we rely on them instead of Gods never changing word's then we will fail every time. This whole thing is about faith, not feelings. Im not saying that im perfect by any means Caty because I certainly struggle so much with religious OCD as well but I can tell you one thing and that is that I am going to worship God and read the Bible to learn more and more about Jesus regardless if feelings of false condemnation come my way or not.

Remember that some of the greatest people of God are the very same ones who have endured through many trials.

 

[annrobert]

Repent and believe the Gospel is God's commandment to everyone. If you know your a sinner in need of a savior then its because God has opened your eyes to see that and if you will call upon the name of the Lord you will be saved because the Bible says that you will and the Bible will not and cannot lie.

Amen

Once you are a Christian; hell is not a place you EVER have to worry about again!!

You can do nothing, think nothing, say nothing, or write nothing ever that will get you to hell. EVER. EVER NEVER!

Amen to that,awesome

He knows that we do not know how to love perfectly and get this He loves us anyway with all of our doubts with all of our fears and even with our OCD problems, don't let your thoughts stop you from coming to him he won't turn you away,and he will never leave you, you won't always feel the way you do right now, feelings especially coupled with OCD can be very deceptive and confusing and I can see this is what you are going through right now,

Amen

 

[Caty]

yeah, i hope everything is okay. id ont know what i want anymore & its hard to pray bc i fear having a thought or something, im not gonna try to think so hard if that makes sense and maybe thigns will get better.

 

[annrobert]

Caty,
Jesus did not say come to Me unless you are scared of hell,
Jesus did not say come to Me unless you fear you do not have enough belief,
Jesus did not say come to Me unless you have fear or weaknesses,
Jesus did not say come to Me unless you have disturbing thoughts,
Jesus said whosoever will may come,
Jesus said come to Me ALL ye who labour and are heavy laden,and I will give you rest
Jesus said come to Me and I will not cast you out.

Jesus said I will lead you to still waters and restore your soul
Jesus said I am annointed to heal the broken hearted deliver the captives and set at liberty those who are bruised
Jesus said a smoking flax I will not snuff out and a broken reed I will not crush
Jesus said I make all things new
Jesus gives us strength
Jesus if full of mercy and compassion and forgiveness
Jesus pleads the cause of Hids people
unbelievers never worry if they believe or not,only believers worry about that

Love
annrobert