Okay, Seriously...

[Lisa0315]

Okay, Seriously, how can we save CCC? I hear that it is being discussed to shut this forum down. What can we do to save it? Any ideas? I mean they would not dare do this to any other forum. There are just as many reports coming out of some of the other forums. Why are we being targeted and how can we put a stop to it?



Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

I am going to do an analysis on all of ET reports. Be back as soon as I am done. Let's see if we are REALLY the problem child of ET or not.

Lisa

 

[nyj]

Well, we've sort of burned our bridge with the Admins of ET. So petitioning them won't help. I say we take a wait and see approach. Don't report anything right now. Let the facts show that we're not the nitpickers. If they STILL decide to shut us down, then we can build a case against the closure.

nyjatcf@gmail.com

If people feel safer speaking to me offsite about issues. Email me anything you want. And those who don't like me ... my mail box is open to hate mail too.

 

[Time2BCounted]

Amen sis, i agree its time we get real, Very good thread

The first thing i frankly feel is neccessary is that we protect the posters. This is home forum to many people who love it. Wheen it gets to the point one cannot post an opinion based on a conservative reading of the scriptures, and be found in violation for it, its gone too far and something is seriously wrong.

We are protecting the wrong people

We are catering to the outside at the expence of our membership and this needs to be reversed every way we can reverse it imo.

Then we need to insure ways that we can deal with those who join for wrong reasons... by this i mean for a reason other than sharing likeminded fellowship. Other forums are equiped, imo its foolish not to be.

 

[Latreia]

Naturally, I shall support CCC and all of you struggling to save it.

But I must say that if we lose this forum, there is no need for us to lose each other.

We can stay in touch and with some luck, we may find other ways to gather together and fellowship.

Sorry, but I am not kidding about back to the catacombs. If we are serious about this forum it should be because we are serious about our alliance with each other as conservative Christians.

Many of us are experienced and seasoned enough to discover new ways to congregate. We may even become stronger.

God keep us.

 

[satrunstar]

Maybe put a petition together and have the people of Cf sign in that room, then have one of the staff take a look and try to convince that persone to take it to the next higher person, or to the one threatening to shut it down.

 

[Lisa0315]

Okay, folks it isn't pretty, but it isn't hopeless either.

Conservative Christians 200
OBOB 200
Messianic 130
Progressive 7DA 41
TAW 133
Non Denominational 148
Baptists 50
Fundamentalists 44
WWMC 45
Spirit Filled 200
Traditional 7DA 24


We are definitely tied for the worst, but we are not alone. They cannot use the number of reports generated from this forum as a reason to close us down, unless they are going to also close several others down.

Now, what can we do?

Lisa

 

[nyj]

Like I said ... not make it worse by making reports. Part of Lee's request was to choose NOT to be offended. So if people are coming in here and filing reports ... they're choosing NOT to listen to Lee.

 

[Lisa0315]

I was just repped that my info is wrong. Who heard that CCC was being discussed for closure? Does anyone have a link to the staff room discussion or is it sekrit?

Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

Well, I think two things should happen.

#1, we should have the liberty to talk about what we want to talk about without it being called a flame. So, if we use the phrase "Liberal Agenda", that should not be seen as a flame.

#2, If someone with a LIBERAL AGENDA comes into this forum and baits us, we MUST NOT respond to them, but GO GET A MOD!

Now, I do not know how to get the liberty. I don't know if it is our topics or if it is how we are expressing ourselves, but it is as if anything we say is considered a flame these days.

Are we flaming?

Lisa

 

[Hentenza]

I was just repped that my info is wrong. Who heard that CCC was being discussed for closure? Does anyone have a link to the staff room discussion or is it sekrit?

Lisa

Lisa,

Your information is gossip. There is much being discussed but it would be irresponsible to say that CC is going to be closed. I will let you guys know later but do NOT feed the gossip. Nothing is decided and CC is not being closed.

 

[nyj]

Are we flaming?

I don't think we are.

Honestly, I think I'm going to request that the Conservative, Moderate and Liberal fora be closed to those who do not prescribe to those viewpoints. It's about the only way I can envision, AT THIS POINT AND TIME, to keep people from "being offended" by reading things that are opposite their own viewpoints.

 

[Nadiine]

Okay, Seriously, how can we save CCC? I hear that it is being discussed to shut this forum down. What can we do to save it? Any ideas? I mean they would not dare do this to any other forum. There are just as many reports coming out of some of the other forums. Why are we being targeted and how can we put a stop to it?
Lisa

Maybe the other forums aren't doing any challenging? I thought we were doing alot better today getting new threads going & chatting in those -- I thought it was a decent day. (compared to 2 wks ago).

In some way it feels like a dictatorship has started and that's a little worrysome.
I think everybody is just burned out -incl. staff- & it's getting on their nerves.
The only thing that seems to be wanted is to knuckle under & do what they say & shut up. At least it seems pretty obvious to me that's the way this is headed.

& if it's INNER CC people doing all this reporting, they should be sought out or told to knock it off. Who knows if they want to sabotage it? I can't know.
I'm tired... maybe somebody else has other ideas.

I think all there is to do is obey & carry on - refuse to take BAIT posts from non members that mite come in & post stuff...?

We need some rule changes is what we need - who can post what, etc.

 

[IamRedeemed]

I think the first thing we need to do, is have these conversations via PM or something,
since we have no private way to discuss these issues and there is no reason for us to walk
past the glass doors naked while we discuss our plans to save CC, only to have them
purposefully thwarted.

Thanks for taking that inventory of what the totals are.
Is there any way to figure out of the 200 how many are NV and spite
reports and/or reports from non-CC members, and maybe even go farther
and see how many of the non-CC members are also IIDB members?

That would be an interesting stat report I think......

I have plans with my DH so I have to go for now.....

God bless the CC!

 

[Lisa0315]

Lisa,

Your information is gossip. There is much being discussed but it would be irresponsible to say that CC is going to be closed. I will let you guys know later but do NOT feed the gossip. Nothing is decided and CC is not being closed.

Thank You, Henry.

I think this can still be a productive conversation though. I mean, we ARE generating alot of reports. So, if we can figure out how to stop doing that, it would not be a bad thing, true?

Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

I don't think we are.

Honestly, I think I'm going to request that the Conservative, Moderate and Liberal fora be closed to those who do not prescribe to those viewpoints. It's about the only way I can envision, AT THIS POINT AND TIME, to keep people from "being offended" by reading things that are opposite their own viewpoints.

That would be a dream come true in my opinion.

Lisa

 

[IamRedeemed]

You'll get no argument from me on that point.

I don't think we are.

Honestly, I think I'm going to request that the Conservative, Moderate and Liberal fora be closed to those who do not prescribe to those viewpoints. It's about the only way I can envision, AT THIS POINT AND TIME, to keep people from "being offended" by reading things that are opposite their own viewpoints.

 

[desmalia]

Naturally, I shall support CCC and all of you struggling to save it.

But I must say that if we lose this forum, there is no need for us to lose each other.

We can stay in touch and with some luck, we may find other ways to gather together and fellowship.

Sorry, but I am not kidding about back to the catacombs. If we are serious about this forum it should be because we are serious about our alliance with each other as conservative Christians.

Many of us are experienced and seasoned enough to discover new ways to congregate. We may even become stronger.

God keep us.

That is so true.
I don't mean to sound "glass is half empty" but I seriously don't believe the powers that be here give a rip what any of us want. Whatever plans are in the works will go ahead regardless of what membership says or does.

But you are so right. Friendships have been established here, and even amidst the ugliness there has been true Biblical fellowshipping happening here. That kind of thing doesn't just die because of a technicality. We do have the power to maintain these relationships. It may just take a little creativity.

Oh, and while I do hope CC is not at an end, if it is (and even if it isn't!), the fundies here (regardless of your politics or what kind of church you attend) are more than welcome to join us in the Fundamentalist forum any time.

 

[Time2BCounted]

Well, I think two things should happen.

#1, we should have the liberty to talk about what we want to talk about without it being called a flame. So, if we use the phrase "Liberal Agenda", that should not be seen as a flame.

#2, If someone with a LIBERAL AGENDA comes into this forum and baits us, we MUST NOT respond to them, but GO GET A MOD!

Now, I do not know how to get the liberty. I don't know if it is our topics or if it is how we are expressing ourselves, but it is as if anything we say is considered a flame these days.

Are we flaming?

Lisa

Well i think those are good points. As to what a flame is, i think the rules are pretty plain persoanlly, but its the interpretation thats been the plroblem. A flame has been considered anything negative lol. We should sure be allowed to speak a conservative opinion within our own forum and for people to imply we do not have this right, they simply dont belong here because they have an agenda that endangers our forum's integrity.

What we do not protect we can be sure to lose.

i dont think the discussion was serious but there was a discussion about us being shut down 24-48 hours, kinda a 'too bad it isnt so' sorta thing here

Check yer reps lol

 

[Hentenza]

Thank You, Henry.

I think this can still be a productive conversation though. I mean, we ARE generating alot of reports. So, if we can figure out how to stop doing that, it would not be a bad thing, true?

Lisa

Yes, we are generating reports and that needs to be stopped, however, the forum is not being closed.