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I wasn't going to say nothing but after this morning I cant keep silent no more. People may wonder why it is I don't want to go to Church and after what I saw on TV this morning I don't think anyone can blame me. This really made me angry.

This preacher is on TV right now and he is talking about David and Saul and said that "Saul is really schizophrenic, yeah that guy is really crazy, you've seen people like that. Grrrrr. "Crazy people give you turbo growth." The Bible says Saul was tormented by evil spirits, not schizophrenic.

People don't even think twice about saying the most horrible things about people with mental illnesses and even blame stuff like the work of the devil or evil spirits on them. There is no way in heck I am going down to one of their churches to be made fun of and be scoffed at or worse.

Also the other day one well known preacher was saying that you shouldn't hang around with looser people or "chickens" you should go hang out with successful people or "eagles." In other words distance your self from losers "chickens" dump them people, only hang out with people of means or success.

Jesus said, Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. He didn't say trade up your friends for greater success. What the heck! Also success, why is that even important? Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher; all is vanity. What profit has a man of all his labor which he takes under the sun?

No thank you, they can keep them Churches. I am going to stay right here with my people if you don't mind hanging out with one of Gods chickens.
 

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I wasn't going to say nothing but after this morning I cant keep silent no more. People may wonder why it is I don't want to go to Church and after what I saw on TV this morning I don't think anyone can blame me. This really made me angry.

This preacher is on TV right now and he is talking about David and Saul and said that "Saul is really schizophrenic, yeah that guy is really crazy, you've seen people like that. Grrrrr. "Crazy people give you turbo growth." The Bible says Saul was tormented by evil spirits, not schizophrenic.

People don't even think twice about saying the most horrible things about people with mental illnesses and even blame stuff like the work of the devil or evil spirits on them. There is no way in heck I am going down to one of their churches to be made fun of and be scoffed at or worse.

Also the other day one well known preacher was saying that you shouldn't hang around with looser people or "chickens" you should go hang out with successful people or "eagles." In other words distance your self from losers "chickens" dump them people, only hang out with people of means or success.

Jesus said, Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. He didn't say trade up your friends for greater success. What the heck! Also success, why is that even important? Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher; all is vanity. What profit has a man of all his labor which he takes under the sun?

No thank you, they can keep them Churches. I am going to stay right here with my people if you don't mind hanging out with one of Gods chickens.
Guess nobody cares? I guess I should not be around anyone anymore.
 
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Your response seems to understandably stem from what causes you pain, not the Truth. This is common for anyone who experiences an inordinate amount of pain from certain things. The Truth is that every person is different from everyone else. Applying the example of a few (or a large) number of people to all people with the same label is called prejudice. Regardless of the motivation of those that carried out the Crusades, all Christians were not like them. Seeking out the friendship of other Christians allows you to find supportive people. You will also find people that reject you. It's same about everything, everywhere. Dye your hair blue and go to church, some will reject you for your blue hair and some will say they love it.
 
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Your response seems to understandably stem from what causes you pain, not the Truth. This is common for anyone who experiences an inordinate amount of pain from certain things. The Truth is that every person is different from everyone else. Applying the example of a few (or a large) number of people to all people with the same label is called prejudice. Regardless of the motivation of those that carried out the Crusades, all Christians were not like them. Seeking out the friendship of other Christians allows you to find supportive people. You will also find people that reject you. It's same about everything, everywhere. Dye your hair blue and go to church, some will reject you for your blue hair and some will say they love it.
Its not just the Christians, its people in general. How many times have I heard people say things like that's schizophrenic. Or he/she must have bipolar because they had a mood swing. They laugh it up hardy har har. The truth is its not funny, not at all, to make fun of people who are suffering.

Lets try this, replace the same sentences with cancer. "That's so cancerous. He/she must have cancer." Its not funny anymore is it?

During my grand tour of most of the mental hospitals in my state I have had the pleasure to meet quite a few people with schizophrenia and they were good people (besides my aunt which is a special case). I just don't think its funny to make fun of others and I find it so much more offensive to find a house of The Lord doing it.

I don't mean to be anti Church but do you know how many times I have saw people professing to be Christians say the most horrible things to people with mental illnesses? They are all over the web, plain to see. Things like the Bible says God gave you a sound mind so you must have a demon etc etc and so on and so forth.

Does this hurt me? Yes it does, a great deal and I don't even know if I have it in me to go to a Church and bare my throat to a bunch of people who might think I have a demon or who knows what.
 
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I am deeply familiar with rejection, but not that kind. It truly does sound awful. When I was dealing with cancer, I didn't find even the slightest thing about cancer or death amusing. While I still think they are not amusing topics, talk about them does not pierce my soul like they used to.

Nearly all people have differing words/behaviors depending on who they know is listening/watching. Those people showing contempt for those with schizophrenia would behave differently if they knew you had it. It is not necessarily a false face they would put on. Knowing you had it would actually change some people's thinking about it.

Unfortunately, they still wouldn't really know anything about it, which is the real problem hindering compassion. However, I have not seen anyone that really understands social anxiety, depression, or bipolar disorder, including psychologists, except the ones that have had it themselves. Even though spouses of those with mental illness can have a life of suffering, it isn't the same as having the illness itself. Compassion and politeness is called for, forced or not, however politeness may be all that is possible to people who have never had to deal with their or someone else's mental illness, but they can't even be polite unless they know someone around them is sensitive about it.
 
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I am deeply familiar with rejection, but not that kind. It truly does sound awful. When I was dealing with cancer, I didn't find even the slightest thing about cancer or death amusing. While I still think they are not amusing topics, talk about them does not pierce my soul like they used to.

Nearly all people have differing words/behaviors depending on who they know is listening/watching. Those people showing contempt for those with schizophrenia would behave differently if they knew you had it. It is not necessarily a false face they would put on. Knowing you had it would actually change some people's thinking about it.

Unfortunately, they still wouldn't really know anything about it, which is the real problem hindering compassion. However, I have not seen anyone that really understands social anxiety, depression, or bipolar disorder, including psychologists, except the ones that have had it themselves. Even though spouses of those with mental illness can have a life of suffering, it isn't the same as having the illness itself. Compassion and politeness is called for, forced or not, however politeness may be all that is possible to people who have never had to deal with their or someone else's mental illness, but they can't even be polite unless they know someone around them is sensitive about it.

I am so sorry you had to deal with cancer. I did not mean to be flippant about it, it was just an illustration to show that people look at mental illnesses as something to make fun of where as other illnesses they don't, and I don't know why.

With mental illnesses, especially Church people come up with stuff like you must have a demon etc. They don't do that with other illnesses. It really gets to me. Out of all of my illnesses, I consider this the worst one of all.

I mentioned I have diabetic kidney disease and I know eventually they will fail and I will have to do dialysis but somehow that does not bother me nearly as much as the thought of facing psychosis again in the future. I take shots of insulin all day long and yet it seems like nothing compared to the thought of loosing my mind again. Nothing I have experienced so far is worse than this. Not surgerys, not anything.

I cooled down a bit and realized I do have to obey God and go to Church even though I don't really want to go. I don't think driving a hour every Sunday is feasible in the long term though so I am just going to pick a local Church, sit in a pew, and that will be the end of it. I don't expect to learn anything but I will do that at home anyway.

As far as telling people though about my mental illness, I am not going to tell them. That would hit the rumor mill and would spread around town before I got into my car to leave the building. By the time it made its "rounds" and got embellished no telling what people would be saying about me.

You would think a town that is so righteous as to not allow bars and has all these Churches that they would be a little farther towards being understanding about peoples difficulties but they aren't and I don't trust them.
 
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I personally would not trust most so called "tv preachers" most of them have very false gospels. As for the churches did you actually have someone tell you that you "have a demon"? My church I may have had one person in my whole 17 years of being a Christian mention that but I find that most Christians and my Pastor is very supportive of my disorder.

I pray you find some peace in whatever you decide.
 
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I personally would not trust most so called "tv preachers" most of them have very false gospels. As for the churches did you actually have someone tell you that you "have a demon"? My church I may have had one person in my whole 17 years of being a Christian mention that but I find that most Christians and my Pastor is very supportive of my disorder.

I pray you find some peace in whatever you decide.

I don't trust most of the TV preachers but keep the TV mostly on the Christian channels because there isn't much on TV that I want to watch. I had not seen the guy who was so offensive before but if I see him again I am not going to watch that show. I wish we got NRB, I like that channel, but the satellite TV I have don't carry it.

No preacher has suggested I have a demon but I did have a Christian marriage councilor who wanted to do a deliverance on me. I also had a nightmare experience in a regular hospital when I was psychotic once and they sat at the desk outside my room and referred to me as "that thing." They said stuff like there is something wrong with that thing as if to say I had a demon.

In all honesty I don't have a demon inside me. I do have external ones and have to do spiritual warfare and ask the Lord to get rid of them from time to time. I think that is the same for any Christian though.

I have decided, I am just going to go inside a Church and sit in a pew every Sunday like I am supposed to do. SO unless they pull out the big box o snakes I am going to be there. As far as letting them in on my condition or letting them in to my life, well that requires trust and that is something that has to be earned with me.
 
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In all honesty I don't have a demon inside me. I do have external ones and have to do spiritual warfare and ask the Lord to get rid of them from time to time. I think that is the same for any Christian though.

I have decided, I am just going to go inside a Church and sit in a pew every Sunday like I am supposed to do. SO unless they pull out the big box o snakes I am going to be there. As far as letting them in on my condition or letting them in to my life, well that requires trust and that is something that has to be earned with me.

Good for you not giving up! Being bipolar myself I dont believe bipolar means you have a demon as you said but I also agree that like you said they can attack you when you are down. I have battled others saying it is a "demon" and it saddens me but I just pray that there eyes are opened. It is genetic in origin that for one should tell you something. It is brain chemistry and different from other diseases as you cant see the pain but for those that are close to you they usually can feel your pain.

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Good for you not giving up! Being bipolar myself I dont believe bipolar means you have a demon as you said but I also agree that like you said they can attack you when you are down. I have battled others saying it is a "demon" and it saddens me but I just pray that there eyes are opened. It is genetic in origin that for one should tell you something. It is brain chemistry and different from other diseases as you cant see the pain but for those that are close to you they usually can feel your pain.

Best Wishes.

Yeah bipolar disorder isn't a demon. I think its genetic too. My mom had something (I am not sure what because I was too young when she was murdered) but I would guess from my memories that she either had rapid cycling bipolar 1 or possibly schizophrenia. Maybe schizoaffective disorder? I am not sure.

I am relatively certain that's where I go mine from. One of my greatest fears is that I passed this on to my kids. I pray about that a lot. I hope I did not pass this curse along to them. That would be devastating to me.

Yeah my husband and kids know my pain. If it weren't for them I doubt I would be alive right now. Still I have been upset enough to pray over and over for God to just take me so I don't have to go through yet another psychotic episode. For some reason He wont and keeps me here. So I just keep going and live for my family and someday when I get to heaven I can look forward to the day when the Lord fixes my brain.
 
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Amen that is all we can do is hang in there! One of my favorite Bible verses. Comforting that all tears will be gone one day!


Revelation 21King James Version (KJV)

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
 
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I wasn't going to say nothing but after this morning I cant keep silent no more. People may wonder why it is I don't want to go to Church and after what I saw on TV this morning I don't think anyone can blame me. This really made me angry.

This preacher is on TV right now and he is talking about David and Saul and said that "Saul is really schizophrenic, yeah that guy is really crazy, you've seen people like that. Grrrrr. "Crazy people give you turbo growth." The Bible says Saul was tormented by evil spirits, not schizophrenic.

People don't even think twice about saying the most horrible things about people with mental illnesses and even blame stuff like the work of the devil or evil spirits on them. There is no way in heck I am going down to one of their churches to be made fun of and be scoffed at or worse.

Also the other day one well known preacher was saying that you shouldn't hang around with looser people or "chickens" you should go hang out with successful people or "eagles." In other words distance your self from losers "chickens" dump them people, only hang out with people of means or success.

Jesus said, Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. He didn't say trade up your friends for greater success. What the heck! Also success, why is that even important? Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher; all is vanity. What profit has a man of all his labor which he takes under the sun?

No thank you, they can keep them Churches. I am going to stay right here with my people if you don't mind hanging out with one of Gods chickens.
Hey guys I can understand your frustration, truly I can and I sympathize with you. Check out something on this fb page called "Susans Story".....she also came from CF and her life has dramatically changed. Dont throw me off the bus lol.....just check out her story :wave:

www.facebook.com/SolomnsPorch/
 
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Hey guys I can understand your frustration, truly I can and I sympathize with you. Check out something on this fb page called "Susans Story".....she also came from CF and her life has dramatically changed. Dont throw me off the bus lol.....just check out her story :wave:

www.facebook.com/SolomnsPorch/


==her story==


I am 44 years old. My whole life I have suffered from depression and anxiety. My father was an alcoholic and abandoned the family when I was 12. At 13 I witnessed a horrific car accident involving my best friend and her 6 month old nephew, who died in my arms. I did things most teens and young adults at that time were doing to escape - alcohol and drugs, mixed with self-harm. After a breakdown at the age of 24 I descended into a deep abyss of torment, suicide attempts and a score of psychiatric medications. I spent many a night in the hospital's psych ward after attempts to kill myself and suicidal ideations.

I'd like to give some background at this point. I grew up in a family that was Roman Catholic for generations. We never went to church (due to a falling out between my mother and the priest over tithing) but from my earliest memories my mom always talked about God and Jesus. She taught us to pray, read us Bible stories, raised us to do the right things and talked about God as her best friend. There was no "religion" here, it was just relationship, between each one of us and God. I never had a "conversion experience" because I don't remember a time when I wasn't not only fully aware of God being in and around my family, but I myself always knew Him.

I am now 45 years old. I have been suffering loss of time and the appearance during that loss of time of a little girl. She first appeared during a late night talk with a friend on the internet about 9 years ago, and I hadn't a clue until he asked me if I was D.I.D. (Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder). I didn't know what that was, but once learning and hearing him tell me of his conversations with this other personality, I was convinced and I was freaked out.

Over time nights became a scary time for me, for it was after the sun went down that I would begin to not "be myself". Something would come over me and I would feel this darkness of emotions penetrate me, bringing to me feelings of despair, loneliness so deep it physically hurt, desires to abuse drugs and alcohol, desires to watch pornography (and the things that go hand in hand with that), desires to harm and even kill myself. Every. Single. Night. Then I met Solomons Porch after replying to a thread on deliverance. I posed the question that, could these "symptoms of oppression and torment" just be mental illness? That started me on a journey. We began to message back and forth and she asked me many questions, some didn't make sense and seemed off the cuff or random, but I answered them as best as I could. As we talked that first time, it became dark, nighttime moved in and I began to feel very uncomfortable talking with her. This was not due to her or anything she was saying, it was this reaction inside me that brought intense panic, nausea and the desire to run, use drugs, hurt myself, anything to get away from this. But she kept me with her and I pushed through it because I knew there was no logical reason I was feeling this way. As I neared a dead panic, Amanda told me to say the name of Jesus out loud over and over, and I did. At first I couldn't get the word out of my mouth, like something was tying up my tongue. Then it came out in a croak. Then it came out full force. As I lay in bed saying, "Jesus!" (not too loud, mind you, as I didn't want to wake my household), I felt a calmness spread over me like a warm blanket. My anxiety subsided, my panic left, and my brain was no longer going 100 mph like it was banana time in the monkey cage. I just sort of laid there for a few minutes and I began to go over in my mind what had just happened. (Understand, I knew demons were real, and I knew of possession...like The Exorcist...but I never really understood the reality of spirits of 'oppression', 'harassment', 'torment'). I came to the realization that these spirits were real and had just gone through a very physical and psychological fight with them.

The knowledge that these 'things' had been doing this to me my whole life kind of ticked me off. The next day I saw a video by Derek Prince on how to get delivery from these spirits, so I watched it. I was nodding my head throughout the whole thing in agreement with the underhanded deceiving nature of these spirits. At the end there was around a 10 minute or so prayer session of deliverance. I prayed along and as he started naming them, my body would tense up, my chest would tighten and I decided that I was done with being a punching bag for these demons. I said the prayers along with him and with each deliverance of a spirit I would exhale with my whole body, I mean it felt like the air was coming from my toes! I didn't hinder it, I just let it go, time after time, spirit after spirit. At the end I was spent - I was tired, my muscles ached and my face was wet with tears. I had been delivered from many, many oppressive, tormenting demons, praise God!

Whether you are a believer or not, this can happen to you (I thought as a believer I was exempt, but I was not). The true life in this world is not lived through the body, but through the spirit. Becoming a disciple of Jesus is not just about the eternal life, it is about the life we have here and now. We can live through Christ, in His strength, blessed by His grace. I'm not saying I am no longer psychologically attacked, I am every single day, but now, in Christ, and by the blood of Jesus, I am able to resist, and the devil does indeed flee. When Jesus said that He came to set the captives free, this is what He meant! Not only did He free us from sin and death and their consequences, but He came to free us from the evil influences that use our minds and hearts as chew toys.

You don't have to live a tormented life. You don't have to struggle and suffer with negative emotions and mental anguish. You can be freed, and if Jesus sets you free, you are free indeed!

(Just a side note: I don't go to church and I am not 'religious'. That brings to mind, for me and others, of a building of holy hypocrites. I prefer "follower of Christ" and it is a personal relationship with Him, not "do this, don't do that" but rather "I love you, so I want to do this and that".)
 
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==her story==


I am 44 years old. My whole life I have suffered from depression and anxiety. My father was an alcoholic and abandoned the family when I was 12. At 13 I witnessed a horrific car accident involving my best friend and her 6 month old nephew, who died in my arms. I did things most teens and young adults at that time were doing to escape - alcohol and drugs, mixed with self-harm. After a breakdown at the age of 24 I descended into a deep abyss of torment, suicide attempts and a score of psychiatric medications. I spent many a night in the hospital's psych ward after attempts to kill myself and suicidal ideations.

I'd like to give some background at this point. I grew up in a family that was Roman Catholic for generations. We never went to church (due to a falling out between my mother and the priest over tithing) but from my earliest memories my mom always talked about God and Jesus. She taught us to pray, read us Bible stories, raised us to do the right things and talked about God as her best friend. There was no "religion" here, it was just relationship, between each one of us and God. I never had a "conversion experience" because I don't remember a time when I wasn't not only fully aware of God being in and around my family, but I myself always knew Him.

I am now 45 years old. I have been suffering loss of time and the appearance during that loss of time of a little girl who called herself Naomi. She first appeared during a late night talk with a friend on the internet about 9 years ago, and I hadn't a clue until he asked me if I was D.I.D. (Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder). I didn't know what that was, but once learning and hearing him tell me of his conversations with this other personality, I was convinced and I was freaked out.

Over time nights became a scary time for me, for it was after the sun went down that I would begin to not "be myself". Something would come over me and I would feel this darkness of emotions penetrate me, bringing to me feelings of despair, loneliness so deep it physically hurt, desires to abuse drugs and alcohol, desires to watch pornography (and the things that go hand in hand with that), desires to harm and even kill myself. Every. Single. Night. Then I met Solomons Porch after replying to a thread on deliverance. I posed the question that, could these "symptoms of oppression and torment" just be mental illness? That started me on a journey. We began to message back and forth and she asked me many questions, some didn't make sense and seemed off the cuff or random, but I answered them as best as I could. As we talked that first time, it became dark, nighttime moved in and I began to feel very uncomfortable talking with her. This was not due to her or anything she was saying, it was this reaction inside me that brought intense panic, nausea and the desire to run, use drugs, hurt myself, anything to get away from this. But she kept me with her and I pushed through it because I knew there was no logical reason I was feeling this way. As I neared a dead panic, Amanda told me to say the name of Jesus out loud over and over, and I did. At first I couldn't get the word out of my mouth, like something was tying up my tongue. Then it came out in a croak. Then it came out full force. As I lay in bed saying, "Jesus!" (not too loud, mind you, as I didn't want to wake my household), I felt a calmness spread over me like a warm blanket. My anxiety subsided, my panic left, and my brain was no longer going 100 mph like it was banana time in the monkey cage. I just sort of laid there for a few minutes and I began to go over in my mind what had just happened. (Understand, I knew demons were real, and I knew of possession...like The Exorcist...but I never really understood the reality of spirits of 'oppression', 'harassment', 'torment'). I came to the realization that these spirits were real and had just gone through a very physical and psychological fight with them.

The knowledge that these 'things' had been doing this to me my whole life kind of ticked me off. The next day I saw a video by Derek Prince on how to get delivery from these spirits, so I watched it. I was nodding my head throughout the whole thing in agreement with the underhanded deceiving nature of these spirits. At the end there was around a 10 minute or so prayer session of deliverance. I prayed along and as he started naming them, my body would tense up, my chest would tighten and I decided that I was done with being a punching bag for these demons. I said the prayers along with him and with each deliverance of a spirit I would exhale with my whole body, I mean it felt like the air was coming from my toes! I didn't hinder it, I just let it go, time after time, spirit after spirit. At the end I was spent - I was tired, my muscles ached and my face was wet with tears. I had been delivered from many, many oppressive, tormenting demons, praise God!

Whether you are a believer or not, this can happen to you (I thought as a believer I was exempt, but I was not). The true life in this world is not lived through the body, but through the spirit. Becoming a disciple of Jesus is not just about the eternal life, it is about the life we have here and now. We can live through Christ, in His strength, blessed by His grace. I'm not saying I am no longer psychologically attacked, I am every single day, but now, in Christ, and by the blood of Jesus, I am able to resist, and the devil does indeed flee. When Jesus said that He came to set the captives free, this is what He meant! Not only did He free us from sin and death and their consequences, but He came to free us from the evil influences that use our minds and hearts as chew toys.

You don't have to live a tormented life. You don't have to struggle and suffer with negative emotions and mental anguish. You can be freed, and if Jesus sets you free, you are free indeed!

(Just a side note: I don't go to church and I am not 'religious'. That brings to mind, for me and others, of a building of holy hypocrites. I prefer "follower of Christ" and it is a personal relationship with Him, not "do this, don't do that" but rather "I love you, so I want to do this and that".)
Thanks Prophetic......you already know how proud I am of you *hugs*
 
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Amen that is all we can do is hang in there! One of my favorite Bible verses. Comforting that all tears will be gone one day!


Revelation 21King James Version (KJV)

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Amen I cant wait for Him to return. Its going to be the best day ever! I cant wait! I think about this a lot of the time because I know I will be healed and I can barely imagine a life where I am normal.
 
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==her story==


I am 44 years old. My whole life I have suffered from depression and anxiety. My father was an alcoholic and abandoned the family when I was 12. At 13 I witnessed a horrific car accident involving my best friend and her 6 month old nephew, who died in my arms. I did things most teens and young adults at that time were doing to escape - alcohol and drugs, mixed with self-harm. After a breakdown at the age of 24 I descended into a deep abyss of torment, suicide attempts and a score of psychiatric medications. I spent many a night in the hospital's psych ward after attempts to kill myself and suicidal ideations.

I'd like to give some background at this point. I grew up in a family that was Roman Catholic for generations. We never went to church (due to a falling out between my mother and the priest over tithing) but from my earliest memories my mom always talked about God and Jesus. She taught us to pray, read us Bible stories, raised us to do the right things and talked about God as her best friend. There was no "religion" here, it was just relationship, between each one of us and God. I never had a "conversion experience" because I don't remember a time when I wasn't not only fully aware of God being in and around my family, but I myself always knew Him.

I am now 45 years old. I have been suffering loss of time and the appearance during that loss of time of a little girl. She first appeared during a late night talk with a friend on the internet about 9 years ago, and I hadn't a clue until he asked me if I was D.I.D. (Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder). I didn't know what that was, but once learning and hearing him tell me of his conversations with this other personality, I was convinced and I was freaked out.

Over time nights became a scary time for me, for it was after the sun went down that I would begin to not "be myself". Something would come over me and I would feel this darkness of emotions penetrate me, bringing to me feelings of despair, loneliness so deep it physically hurt, desires to abuse drugs and alcohol, desires to watch pornography (and the things that go hand in hand with that), desires to harm and even kill myself. Every. Single. Night. Then I met Solomons Porch after replying to a thread on deliverance. I posed the question that, could these "symptoms of oppression and torment" just be mental illness? That started me on a journey. We began to message back and forth and she asked me many questions, some didn't make sense and seemed off the cuff or random, but I answered them as best as I could. As we talked that first time, it became dark, nighttime moved in and I began to feel very uncomfortable talking with her. This was not due to her or anything she was saying, it was this reaction inside me that brought intense panic, nausea and the desire to run, use drugs, hurt myself, anything to get away from this. But she kept me with her and I pushed through it because I knew there was no logical reason I was feeling this way. As I neared a dead panic, Amanda told me to say the name of Jesus out loud over and over, and I did. At first I couldn't get the word out of my mouth, like something was tying up my tongue. Then it came out in a croak. Then it came out full force. As I lay in bed saying, "Jesus!" (not too loud, mind you, as I didn't want to wake my household), I felt a calmness spread over me like a warm blanket. My anxiety subsided, my panic left, and my brain was no longer going 100 mph like it was banana time in the monkey cage. I just sort of laid there for a few minutes and I began to go over in my mind what had just happened. (Understand, I knew demons were real, and I knew of possession...like The Exorcist...but I never really understood the reality of spirits of 'oppression', 'harassment', 'torment'). I came to the realization that these spirits were real and had just gone through a very physical and psychological fight with them.

The knowledge that these 'things' had been doing this to me my whole life kind of ticked me off. The next day I saw a video by Derek Prince on how to get delivery from these spirits, so I watched it. I was nodding my head throughout the whole thing in agreement with the underhanded deceiving nature of these spirits. At the end there was around a 10 minute or so prayer session of deliverance. I prayed along and as he started naming them, my body would tense up, my chest would tighten and I decided that I was done with being a punching bag for these demons. I said the prayers along with him and with each deliverance of a spirit I would exhale with my whole body, I mean it felt like the air was coming from my toes! I didn't hinder it, I just let it go, time after time, spirit after spirit. At the end I was spent - I was tired, my muscles ached and my face was wet with tears. I had been delivered from many, many oppressive, tormenting demons, praise God!

Whether you are a believer or not, this can happen to you (I thought as a believer I was exempt, but I was not). The true life in this world is not lived through the body, but through the spirit. Becoming a disciple of Jesus is not just about the eternal life, it is about the life we have here and now. We can live through Christ, in His strength, blessed by His grace. I'm not saying I am no longer psychologically attacked, I am every single day, but now, in Christ, and by the blood of Jesus, I am able to resist, and the devil does indeed flee. When Jesus said that He came to set the captives free, this is what He meant! Not only did He free us from sin and death and their consequences, but He came to free us from the evil influences that use our minds and hearts as chew toys.

You don't have to live a tormented life. You don't have to struggle and suffer with negative emotions and mental anguish. You can be freed, and if Jesus sets you free, you are free indeed!

(Just a side note: I don't go to church and I am not 'religious'. That brings to mind, for me and others, of a building of holy hypocrites. I prefer "follower of Christ" and it is a personal relationship with Him, not "do this, don't do that" but rather "I love you, so I want to do this and that".)

Thanks for sharing your story. I do understand where your coming from. I don't have DID but I can understand being attacked by demons.

I used to be afraid of them and could not fight them off. Finally one day I got sick of being afraid and now I really am not.

They like to attack me mostly when I am down or when I am at my weakest (like during mania) but I feel most of my life has been spent battling these things.

I am just a few years older than you but I am wise enough to know when something is actually my thoughts or when something is trying to put thoughts in my head or give me dreams/nightmares. So I know when they are here. They attack in other ways too but they really love to attack me in my head the most.

I ask the Lord to send them to the abyss these days because that's where they begged Jesus not to send them when He cast them out of the demon possessed man.
 
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Well I went to Church and wish I hadn't. The preacher gave a very unsympathetic sermon on tithing. I can't afford to tithe yet as I still have bills that I can't pay off as of yet. We had planned on giving as much as I could, but we can't give 10% yet. We spent our whole tax return paying off as many bills as we could but it wasn't enough for everything.

He said if you cant afford to tithe yet that your on a sinking ship and should just do it anyway. I am upset, I just can't afford to do that yet. This is the 3rd time we went to that Church and the 2nd sermon on money. I mean it could be a coincidence that we just happen to have showed up on two separate occasions when they preached money but we don't think so.

I am just not going to go back to Church until I can afford it. I am beginning to wonder if going to Church is for me again. I felt so defeated and upset when we came back from there, it felt like it poisoned my spirit. I felt like they wouldn't want someone like me there.
 
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I think it is fine if you don't go to church, and it is fine if you don't tithe for now. Failing to tithe is not a "sinking ship," although I understand why he said that. (It is an investment that is guaranteed to pay back more than you put in, although it depends on one's heart whether one will be able to see it.) Jesus is your source for every good thing. Everything that isn't good for you right now isn't from the Lord—not that we are that good at recognizing what is good for us, but we use the faculties we have to do the best we can.

God is the Lord of Life. Everything that breathes life into you (and lasts) is from the Lord. Everything that has compassion, kindness, and love at its root is from the Lord.
 
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I think it is fine if you don't go to church, and it is fine if you don't tithe for now. Failing to tithe is not a "sinking ship," although I understand why he said that. (It is an investment that is guaranteed to pay back more than you put in, although it depends on one's heart whether one will be able to see it.) Jesus is your source for every good thing. Everything that isn't good for you right now isn't from the Lord—not that we are that good at recognizing what is good for us, but we use the faculties we have to do the best we can.

God is the Lord of Life. Everything that breathes life into you (and lasts) is from the Lord. Everything that has compassion, kindness, and love at its root is from the Lord.
I wish I could tithe but that's not possible right now. You mentioned every good thing being from Jesus, well I felt better before I went there then after so I think He is trying to tell me something, that place is not a place for me.

I don't know if I will ever attempt Church again, I guess if the Lord wants me to go to one He will show me which one to go to. I don't feel led to go anymore but I do think He was trying to show me something and I got the message loud and clear.
 
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