Ok soo.

[Arikay]

About Evolution.

Are you willing to learn about the real theory of evolution?

 

[allout2k3]

I'm telling about jesus that he is the truth that he is the only way , how is that away from christ.

 

[allout2k3]

How is me saying that i dont believe in evolution- coming from monkey's/apes. False information

 

[Arikay]

Because you are doing it by distorting and misunderstanding information. That would be away from christ like.

 

[Jet Black]

because you try and argue against science with a blatant strawman argument. This makes you look silly, and then you trying to advertise christ then tars christ with your bad arguments and makes christianity look silly. I am not about to go about worshipping anything based on a strawman argument, so quite possibly you have just lost God another believer. I am sure he will be very happy with you.

 

[Jet Black]

How is me saying that i dont believe in evolution- coming from monkey's/apes. False information

3) The apes came from another species, just like all animals. The evolution of the sexes was an important thing as the sharing of different genetic information allows for more diversity and more diversity is a good thing.

-where did the apes coem from and why arent there still humans coming from apes.

because this is the argument you used. this is a strawman, or you just don't know anything about evolution, in which case I suggest you carry on eating your cornflakes.

 

[allout2k3]

No, i understand completely that evolution is ****

 

[allout2k3]

I look silly ? Your calling me silly? I call it confidence in what i believe..

Arguing agasint science i was asking where it all came from getting to my piont that it all had to come from somewhere. GOD

 

[Arikay]

So you are willing to lie for christ.

How nice.

 

[Jet Black]

No, i understand completely that evolution is ****

excellent, then I am sure you can give me a good scientific description of evolution, go on....

 

[allout2k3]

How am i lying?

 

[Jet Black]

I look silly ? Your calling me silly? I call it confidence in what i believe..

Arguing agasint science i was asking where it all came from getting to my piont that it all had to come from somewhere. GOD

YOU WERE USING A STRAWMAN ARGUMENT. of course it makes you look silly. confidence in what you believe is irrelevant, as a stroll through an asylum will demonstrate*.

*apologies to whoever I paraphrased that from.

 

[Jet Black]

How am i lying?

post #66 demonstrates that you gave a false strawman view of evolution

in post #67 you claim to have a knowledge of evolution.

since post #66 is wrong, either post #66 ot #67 is a lie. which is it to be?

 

[allout2k3]

HOW?! when i was asking where did it come from????

 

[Arikay]

If you understand evolution, then you should be able to answer Jet,

excellent, then I am sure you can give me a good scientific description of evolution, go on....

 

[allout2k3]

All i am asking is where did everything come from? .. Now You will give me an answer and i will keep asking where did it come from.. and keep on.. cause it all had to come from somewhere. That somewhere is GOD....

 

[Jet Black]

3) The apes came from another species, just like all animals. The evolution of the sexes was an important thing as the sharing of different genetic information allows for more diversity and more diversity is a good thing.

-where did the apes coem from and why arent there still humans coming from apes.

No, i understand completely that evolution is ****

let me make this explicit: these two statements are contradictory:

the 1st shows you do not understand evolution
the 2nd claims you do

one of them is a lie.

 

[Jet Black]

All i am asking is where did everything come from? .. Now You will give me an answer and i will keep asking where did it come from.. and keep on.. cause it all had to come from somewhere. That somewhere is GOD....

we are sitting here wondering why you were lying to us though. you said you were trying to plant the seed of christ, and all we see is one of christs followers lying to us. it's not a good impression.

 

[allout2k3]

I knew in the first statement that evolution was ****, i'm asking you where it came from.. trying to get to my point that everything came from somthing.. again, GOD.

 

[ObbiQuiet]

Arguing agasint science i was asking where it all came from getting to my piont that it all had to come from somewhere. GOD

Again, the causality argument is flawed.

"Everything has to come from somewhere so it must have come from a being who did not have to come from somewhere."

"Well, if everything has to come from somewhere, then doesn't god have to also?"

"No, he always existed."

"Well.. isn't it possible that things always existed? That nothing came into creation? Which is more likely - that things always existed or that an omni-potent being who always existed created everything?"

May I remind you that the simplest answer is almost always the correct one - except for God. God cannot be considered the "simplest" answer. Look at birds. Why do birds fly? For years people tried to figure this out. The SIMPLEST answer as to why they fly is that "God makes them fly". Is that true? Is it a miracle each time they fly? Is god saying "fly now, up up and away" each time they take off, or catch a breeze? no. We know now why they fly. The same idea can be placed with the sun rising, for instance. The SIMPLEST answer (even the biblical answer) was that God conciously made light come into existance, put the light away, then made it dark again, and made the sun/moon/stars move. Is that was happens? Aren't we just spinning around freely?

Another problem with the causality proving god's existance: (if it were correct) Does it prove God's existance? Or does it just show that an omnipotent being (or at least a being capable of creation, who did not need to be created (or even multiple beings)) needed to exist? It may show that an omnipotent being(s) needed to exist, but it does not show which one.