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It was by a 176 to 76 vote of the Greek Parliament..And all these devout Christians support SSM enough to vote for it? I don't really know the details on how it all worked. But someone said it was a secular decision and not a religious one. So I don't know.
I think we are right on topic. One of the salient features of the Christian Right is their attempts to criminalize Christian sins for non-Christian citizens of a secular state. I have yet to see a cogent theological argument for it consistent with our Constitutional right to religious freedom.I am not the judge.
In my experience, most Orthodox Christians do not support homosexual behavior or homosexual marriage by and large. Most of them are rather disgusted by it.
It's not....infiltrated in Eastern Christianity like it is in the West.
Most Orthodox countries haven't legalized SSM for a reason.
.....but I am getting off topic.
"school boards in some states where slavery was practiced, have banned mentions of slavery"The irony is that the school boards in some states where slavery was practiced, have banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it. Florida even inserted a standard requiring schools to teach that slavery was a benefit to slaves, because they learned trades that way.
We all get it. While the N-word is now an obscenity to decent people, it's a fact that it used to be used by many otherwise decent humans. And kids should know that.
A group of Texas educators have proposed to the Texas State Board of Education that slavery should be taught as “involuntary relocation” during second grade social studies instruction, but board members have asked them to reconsider the phrasing, according to the state board’s chair.what school boards have done that? I haven't read that anywhere
where are you getting this from?
The irony is that the school boards in some states where slavery was practiced, have banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it.
A group of Texas educators have proposed to the Texas State Board of Education that slavery should be taught as “involuntary relocation” during second grade social studies instruction, but board members have asked them to reconsider the phrasing, according to the state board’s chair.
“The board -- with unanimous consent -- directed the work group to revisit that specific language,” Keven Ellis, chair of the Texas State Board of Education said in a statement issued late Thursday.
The working group of nine educators, including a professor at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley, is one of many such groups advising the state education board to make curriculum changes. This summer, the board will consider updates to social studies instruction a year after lawmakers passed a law to keep topics that make students “feel discomfort” out of Texas classrooms. The board will have a final vote on the curriculum in November.
State education board members push back on proposal to use “involuntary relocation” to describe slavery
The Texas State Board of Education is fielding proposals to update the state’s public school social studies curriculum this summer.www.texastribune.org
New Florida standards teach students that some Black people benefited from slavery because it taught useful skills
The standards, which were blasted by a statewide teachers' union as a "step backward," were approved Wednesday by the State Board of Education.
New Florida standards teach that Black people benefited from slavery because it taught useful skills
The standards, which were blasted by a statewide teachers' union as a "step backward," were approved Wednesday by the State Board of Education.www.nbcnews.com
Trump's followers think that their time has come to take over, and they are making the most of it.
It's the re-definition of marriage that many Christians object to, but we are getting off topic.
So I will ask the question again, what school districts "banned the mention of slavery" in school curriculums.
Today's winner.Should this commandment be enforced, by civil law, upon all?
And if so, whose interpretation? You and I both know that there are those Christians who would accuse both you and me of being idolators for having icons. I, myself, have an icon of the Blessed Virgin with Child in my home--should that be illegal? I have neighbors who don't worship God at all, or who worship other gods--should that be illegal?
banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it.I wrote:
The irony is that the school boards in some states where slavery was practiced, have banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it.
It's a law that mentioning anything that might upset people in public schools is banned:
This summer, the board will consider updates to social studies instruction a year after lawmakers passed a law to keep topics that make students “feel discomfort” out of Texas classrooms. The board will have a final vote on the curriculum in November.
By law. You just edited what I said a bit, for obvious reasons.
Nice try, though.
So I will ask the question again, what school districts "banned the mention of slavery" in school curriculums. That was your original claim.
Since you appear to agree that's what is happening, why is it a Christian issue? Where is the theological argument that Christians should oppose mentioning slavery in a way that might upset people?banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it.
This summer, the board will consider updates to social studies instruction a year after lawmakers passed a law to keep topics that make students “feel discomfort” out of Texas classroomsI wrote:
The irony is that the school boards in some states where slavery was practiced, have banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it.
It's a law that mentioning anything that might upset people in public schools is banned:
This summer, the board will consider updates to social studies instruction a year after lawmakers passed a law to keep topics that make students “feel discomfort” out of Texas classrooms. The board will have a final vote on the curriculum in November.
By law. You just edited what I said a bit, for obvious reasons.
Nice try, though.
As you just learned, that's the law in Texas. And yes, it's vague enough to do that. Would you like me to show you?
What is happening?Since you appear to agree that's what is happening, why is it a Christian issue? Where is the theological argument that Christians should oppose mentioning slavery in a way that might upset people?
You still haven't explained why it is a Christian issue or why, at least, a Christian should feel obliged to defend the legislation.This summer, the board will consider updates to social studies instruction a year after lawmakers passed a law to keep topics that make students “feel discomfort” out of Texas classrooms
OK, so
1. They haven't done anything yet
2. They didn't say they were going to ban the entire subject of slavery from the curriculum
I don't have to "try" anything. You are making false claims.
Now if Texas school districts start banning any mention of slavery in school curriculums (which would be very wrong indeed), I will revisit this
I didn't say it was a Christian issue, or that Christians should defend this legislationYou still haven't explained why it is a Christian issue or why, at least, a Christian should feel obliged to defend the legislation.
But we are talking about the Christian Right in general, not just you. There is no doubt that various efforts are being made across the country to "tone down" the discussion of slavery in various ways and, as far as I am aware those efforts are coming from the Christian Right. Why?I didn't say it was a Christian issue, or that Christians should defend this legislation
I was merely responding to Barbarian's claim above the Republicans were banning slavery from being discussed in schools
I think you are mistaking a couple thingsBut we are talking about the Christian Right in general, not just you. There is no doubt that various efforts are being made across the country to "tone down" the discussion of slavery in various ways and, as far as I am aware those efforts are coming from the Christian Right. Why?
Lawmakers passed a law to keep topics that make students “feel discomfort” out of Texas classrooms. That seems like "something" to me.OK, so
1. They haven't done anything yet
I suppose we should be grateful for that. Until, of course, some right wing flapdoodler claims that the mere mention of slavery will make students "feel discomfort." And then the intentionally-vague law kicks in.2. They didn't say they were going to ban the entire subject of slavery from the curriculum
Just parts of it that might make students "feel discomfort." Which could be anything, including the mere reminder that conservatives once enslaved people. I suppose eventually the law itself would be illegal to teach. As you see, some conservatives think that "involuntary relocation" is a much nicer term than "slavery." Governor Ron in Florida thinks that it's important to tell children about the many benefits of being enslaved, such as learning a trade. That's now an educational standard in that former slave state.This idea that conservative school districts in the south are banning the subject of slavery from school curriculums
Digging up a couple school board members in some rural Texas district who suggested changing terminology is not evidence.
And you do. You even listed the right-wing ideas you are trying to promote for our convenience."you just want to promote right-wing ideas in the classroom"!!!!
Lindsay is an atheist, but he has been endorsed by the Southern Baptist Convention. Why do you suppose they would do that?I suggest watching this lecture
The EO is against same-sex marriage. That's. a fact, sir. Those are faithful are opposed to it.Reads a lot like "everyone who agrees with me agrees with me, and those who don't have something wrong with them". Not exactly a compelling argument.
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