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Yes, straight to hell. Just as they have been for a very long time. It's no surprise. It was predicted 2000 years ago.Nup. They were against it. It was a religious views versus a secular one.
Do you see which way attitudes are heading?
It was predicted 2000 years ago that Greek Orthodox Christians are going to hell for allowing the Greek government to legalize same sex civil marriages?Yes, straight to hell. Just as they have been for a very long time. It's no surprise. It was predicted 2000 years ago.
Did I say that? Let me check...You really think the majority of people are far-left progressives?
If the threat of hell is what was stopping people then secular views and associated decisions on matters such as SSM are only going to head one way.Yes, straight to hell. Just as they have been for a very long time. It's no surprise. It was predicted 2000 years ago.
I'm not sure that the Greeks back then were really bothered about homosexuality. They even depicted it on their pottery (no, I'm not going to give a link).It was predicted 2000 years ago that Greek Orthodox Christians are going to hell for allowing the Greek government to legalize same sex civil marriages?
I was responding to the attitudes comment. I believe it was the secular attitudes that trumped religious. Or at least that's what it sounded like.It was predicted 2000 years ago that Greek Orthodox Christians are going to hell for allowing the Greek government to legalize same sex civil marriages?
so you are making the claim that secular requires an endorsement of gay marriage?Did I say that? Let me check...
No. I didn't. Secular doesn't equal 'far left progressive'. Secular views in Greece trumped religious views. You might have noticed a trend. Or maybe not. I certainly have over the last few decades.
I know. Yes it will result in eternal punishment just as all rejection of Christ does. Homosexuals don't get some special treatment.If the threat of hell is what was stopping people then secular views and associated decisions on matters such as SSM are only going to head one way.
Belief in Five Spiritual Entities Edges Down to New Lows
Americans' belief in five religious entities -- God, angels, heaven, hell and the devil -- have all edged down since 2016, continuing a longer-term trend.news.gallup.com
But if you think that someone declaring that they want to share a lifetime with someone of the same sex, or even someone agreeing that they can, will result in eternal punishment, then good for you. Be sure to tell all the gay couples you know. Just in case they aren't aware. Let us know what they think.
I think there are surveys dealing with SSM that show the majority of people support it now. It didn't used to be that way even among secular folks, but I think it is now.so you are making the claim that secular requires an endorsement of gay marriage?
I know a number of secular, non-Christian people, who are not supportive of things like gay marriage, transgenderism, castrating kids, etc. All of that stuff is far-left ideology
so when you say the western world is moving that direction, I disagree
most people are moderate
The secular did not trump the religious. The Greek Orthodox Church is still functioning and is in full control of its doctrines and ceremonies, It just has no say in the matter of who the state can extend the right of civil marriage to. Which it never should have had.I was responding to the attitudes comment. I believe it was the secular attitudes that trumped religious. Or at least that's what it sounded like.
Can you please cut out the the 'So, you are...' comments. It's crystal clear what I said. And what I said is what I meant.so you are making the claim that secular requires an endorsement of gay marriage?
No. It results in some people claiming it will result in eternal punishment. You actually have no idea what God will decide.I know. Yes it will result in eternal punishment...
Well color me confused then about your previous comment about them. Oh well...The secular did not trump the religious. The Greek Orthodox Church is still functioning and is in full control of its doctrines and ceremonies, It just has no say in the matter of who the state can extend the right of civil marriage to. Which it never should have had.
We are all hell bound. Like I said gays don't get a special ticket. I know you want to portray that we believe they do, but we don't.No. It results in some people claiming it will result in eternal punishment. You actually have no idea what God will decide.
But like I said, make sure you tell all your gay friends that you think they are hell bound. Not that it will be your decision in any case. But tell them anyway.
So those who support SSM are going to hell. But...we're all headed there anyway.We are all hell bound.
The irony is that the school boards in some states where slavery was practiced, have banned mentions of slavery in a way that might upset people reading about it. Florida even inserted a standard requiring schools to teach that slavery was a benefit to slaves, because they learned trades that way." two New Jersey lawmakers introduced a resolution urging schools to drop Huck Finn, which uses the N-word more than 200 times. The book’s language “can cause students to feel upset, marginalized, or humiliated and can create an uncomfortable attitude in the classroom,” the resolution declared."
Absolutely not. It's the first Orthodox Country with an Orthodox majority to legalize same-sex (secular) marriage.So the Greek Orthodox Church now permits gay marriage?
It's my understanding many people from Greece are very devout Christians. Unless that changed relatively recently.I was responding to the attitudes comment. I believe it was the secular attitudes that trumped religious. Or at least that's what it sounded like.
I believe it has not changed, but the question really is, why should Christians deny a civil or non Christian marriage to the non Christian citizens of a secular state?It's my understanding many people from Greece are very devout Christians. Unless that changed relatively recently.
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