I've been doing pretty good with my OCD for the longest time but I'm starting to have doubts again saying, "How can there be an all -knowing being?" I feel like I'm on the verge of falling away I don't want to doubt God or not believe in him but how do I confront these thoughts?
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raven1
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The truth is you can't, you can't know it's OCD, you can't know your not going to hell, you can't know you won't become athiest or agnostic or already are at least somewhat those things already anyway, you can't know anything except one day you and I and everyone else will die. We may end up in hell, heaven or just sleep forever and we won't know till we get there and that s@cks!!!
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Just continue to pray, God is there and He hears everything you are experiencing. He loves you!!
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1) Accept the thoughts are a part of your OCD. You know this if they are A) Unwanted, B) Repetitive, C) Intrusive D) Panic-inducing, E) Time consuming (how much of your day is spent on these thoughts).
2) Accept there is nothing you can do to stop the thoughts.
3) Don't fight the thoughts -- don't shove them back, don't try to ignore them. This will make things worse.
4) Accept you have the power to choose. Belief and knowledge are two different things. Even if you don't have 100% certainty, you still have the choice to believe, and that's where faith comes from.
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Yes but it there has to be at least a little truth to them. Sometimes I think what if I could prove God exists and I think no I dont want to then I will believe he is real. I panic because I really feel that way but fear hell as well. It's kinda like when I want my sister to come over part of me REALLY wants her to because I love her. Part of my REALLY doesn't because she tears up my house and keeps me up late.
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Because OCD doubts are symptoms of a mental illness.
Think of it this way. Sometimes you get a runny nose when you're not sick due to environmental factors. It goes away pretty quick.
Sometimes you get a runny nose because you are sick. This sticks around, clogs you up, and often comes with a variety of other symptoms (sore throat, sneezing, headache, and so on). You have these because of your cold, flu, or virus.
The first runny nose, the one without an accompanying illness, represents your run of the mill doubts. The second represents your OCD doubts -- the product of a disease. OCD is the disease. The thoughts, doubts, and fears are the symptoms. You can't control either, but one is exacerbated by other conditions, such as an infection.
Mental disease is so stigmatized. You can't help what happened to you, Raven. Or anyone here, for that matter. You can't help that you have OCD. I believe the last statistic I heard was 22% of people in the USA have some sort of mental disorder. And unlike other diseases, mental disorder is the only one where people are more often not to rally around you in support. This is no different than having diabetes. Diabetes takes medication and management. So does OCD.
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I just got talkin with several people that said they never wanted there doubts or thought they were mor rational.
My pastor gave me a study bible I thought and felt I don't believe it why bother and I really don't. I don't believe in angels or that prayer works etc. so I freak out if there is a hell I am going. I still pray, go to church etc. but it's just in case he is there not because of belief he is.
My pastor gave me a study bible I thought and felt I don't believe it why bother and I really don't. I don't believe in angels or that prayer works etc. so I freak out if there is a hell I am going. I still pray, go to church etc. but it's just in case he is there not because of belief he is.
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No, you won't. And you have to learn to accept that rather than continuing to look for certainty that can never exist.
If you can't know for sure whether or not you're going to Hell, and you know this, why do you keep searching for certainty? It's as useless as searching for a purple unicorn.
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You need to learn to cope with fear. Which means facing it and embracing it rather than running the other way.
And until you understand that, I doubt I'll be able to help you.
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Exposure therapy is the only proven treatment for OCD. You can go on medication, but that's treating the symptoms and not the disease itself.
If what you're doing isn't working, survey says it's time to try something new. Unless you WANT to feel this way forever, of course. If so, keep on what you're doing.
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