Obsessive fear of being without the Holy spirit

[Blaise N]

Hi everyone,


I’m posting this short post that points out yet again another concern of mine.I must confess for a while now I’ve foolishly relied and obsessed too much on my salvation based on looking for fruits of the spirit.And relied on Christ secondary.The thing Is it scares me to think I don’t have the Holy Spirit,relying on Christ to me isn’t non important,as I know it’s external vitally important.But that still to me lacks the assurance that I possess child ship and salvation of the lord.I worry,though I don’t fear death nor hell,I don’t want to have a false sense in assurance.
Here is (though it is NOT I REPEAT NOT A LIST OF THINGS REQUIRED FOR SALVATION LIKE ISLAM OR HINDUISM PREACHES)

-Acknowledgement of sin
-Repentance of sin(very important)
-Hatred and loathing of sin
-Confessing sin to the Lord
-Being reborn(very Important)
-believing(not mental assent or acknowledgement,but active trust) in Christs death and resurrection) and having faith in Jesus
-Loving the Lord with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength
-Loving thy neighbor as thyself
-Continuing to repent and confess sin and forsake sin to not fall into backsliding

I still worry the Holy Spirit isn’t in me,I must confess also,that I’m filled with uncertainty(not skeptical doubt or refusal unbelief at all) about Christs resurrection,I don’t deny who he is and his death.I must’ve in the corse of my life asked the Lord to save me 100,000 times sometimes sobbing,begging,pleading,and crying.I care very much about salvation but care even more about being a child of him and being loved by him more.I don’t want to have a false sense of salvation and don’t want to still be unreborn.

 

[subtlecollision]

Hi, I'm having a little trouble fully understanding your question, but your post makes me think that you are a born again Christian. A person who isn't born again wouldn't be concerned about Christianity.

• 1 Corinthians 2:14 - The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

• Psalm 10:4 - In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, “There is no God.”

Since you are greatly concerned about these things, I would say that's a good indication that you are born again. A "natural/wicked person" wouldn't be interested in these things. Since you are so interested in God, that's a good indicator to me that you are born again!!

Have you been able to get in therapy for your OCD? I just want to let you know there is HOPE. I used to struggle greatly with religious OCD and now I don't struggle as much. I know it's really scary, but I think some advice would be to create distance from yourself and your OCD. Even if you feel really scared, try to focus on something else for a little while. I once had bad OCD about something (not religious related) and it really took me about a month before I was over it. Sometimes you just need distance and time away from an OCD thought and then at a later time, when you come back to it, you can see that it isn't scary or real.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Any Christian that is truly serious about God will be attacked sooner or later and the enemy knows your weaknesses and will used them against you. One of the ways to repel such attacks is to stand upon God's word...
I strongly recommend the following:
1)When these attacks hit you confess to God what you WANT to be, if you have doubts about being saved, confess to God you are saved, if you want peace confess to God you are peaceful in him
2)Study the Bible and write down scriptures that support what you want to be the truth (in you). Make sure and when you feel attack to repeat these scriptures OUT LOUD as many times as needed till the attack passes. If you are getting more of one attack, continually studying scripture about that.
3)Tell God EXACTLY what you fear, what is upsetting him.... basically spill your guts to him just as if he is standing next to you and your best friend.... God can hear what is on your mind.
4)ASK God what you want to change in yourself, and think positively based upon these confessions to him.
5)Find someone that is suffering from what you suffer and PRAY FOR THEM, encourage them with the knowledge you are learning make yourself a beacon to those who are stuck in the dark by the enemy attack like yours.
6)Start keeping a diary related to all these worries you have and every weekend go back over what has bothered you during the week and keep track of that. Do this every and pay attention to how many and how often certain attacks are thrown at you, the most prevalent attacks you should focus on during the next week till you find yourself more in control. Continue on this regimen hopefully getting control of one thing at a time as the issues rise to the top of the list and need the most attention.
7)When troubled and to the point that the enemy has unraveled you, go into Praise and Worship mode. Find some Christian music that you love that has a powerful message that relates to your situation and sing along with them, and tell God how much you love him and thank him for every little thing you can imagine.
8)Another thing to do is find a way to help someone and when you mind gets the best of you focus on helping them concentrate all you can on making others lives better around you. I think many people who have issues that are mind related their mind won't let them rest and continues to want to be entertained not letting them have peace.... I think there are scriptures about entertaining thoughts.
9)Get a pad of stick it notes, make posters of scripture and things to think and say to remind yourself of what God says about you and your doubts. Put them in strategic places so you cannot avoid seeing them when you are at odds with yourself.

Can't think of anything else..... hope some of this is useful to you.

 

[Tolworth John]

obsessed too much on my salvation based on

you hit the nail on the head there.

As has already been said, ' Only Christians worry about being saved!'

Put your money where your mouth is and live for Jesus, as best you can.
Be regular in reading and praying over the bible, be at church every Sunday.
get involved in your local church.
Support with prayer and cash local charities and missionary organisations.