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Observed change in kinds.

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I didn't say I wanted to be classified the same as a chimp just that I feel no shame being in the hominadae family. Please learn to read.

As for dogs, I am in same class - Mammalia. Again not a problem. Do you not consider yourself a mammal?

No.

I am a human.

That is the main difference.
 
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Have you ever seen a bunch of chimps talked to each other with sign language? It would certain be something to see.

They do not use language other than the need of fighting, hunting, sleeping and mating. These are typical animal behaviors. They do not cook and they do not write.

Have you ever seen a pack of chihuahuas herd sheep? Does this mean that collies and chihuahuas are different kinds?
 
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Have you ever seen a pack of chihuahuas herd sheep? Does this mean that collies and chihuahuas are different kinds?

To shepherds, they might want to do that.
Can ALL dogs herd sheep only be different in efficiency?

If you can not answer this question, then you do not understand the criterion you are talking about.
 
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To shepherds, they might want to do that.
Can ALL dogs herd sheep only be different in efficiency?

If you can not answer this question, then you do not understand the criterion you are talking about.

Then all primates (including humans) are intelligent, just with different effeciencies.
 
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And humans DO share a common ancestor with chimps and other primates.

How do you use moon to illustrate the idea of common ancestor?
Don't be ridiculous. You sense of logic is getting worse. Really.
Are you sure you do not need to see a Doctor for this symptom?
 
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Then all primates (including humans) are intelligent, just with different effeciencies.

Human is not only different. Human is different beyond comprehension.
You are absolutely blind if you do not see the degree of difference.

Please do not argue on this. The more you do, the more disgraceful you are. If you think too much that you are an animal, you WILL become a real animal.
 
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Human is not only different. Human is different beyond comprehension.
You are absolutely blind if you do not see the degree of difference.

Please do not argue on this. The more you do, the more disgraceful you are. If you think too much that you are an animal, you WILL become a real animal.

Humans really aren't that different to chimps and bonobos.

Some tweaks to morphology and higher brain function and you are there.

Stating these facts does not degrade humanity in anyway and it is a little sad that you have such a low opinion of our relationship with the world around us.
 
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I am. But I am much more than that. I deserve a new category for me.

We have one. Its called Homo Sapien Sapien.

There's shapes.
Then there are rectangles
Then there are squares.

You're a square trying to say that you are not a rectangle.
 
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Human is not only different. Human is different beyond comprehension.

No, they are just different effeciencies. That means they can be in the same kind.

Please do not argue on this. The more you do, the more disgraceful you are. If you think too much that you are an animal, you WILL become a real animal.

If we are animals, then acting human is acting like an animal.

Why is that so discgraceful? Why do you find it so terrible to be a part of God's Creation?
 
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No, they are just different effeciencies. That means they can be in the same kind.



If we are animals, then acting human is acting like an animal.

Why is that so discgraceful? Why do you find it so terrible to be a part of God's Creation?

You are created on Day 5 and I am created on Day 6. We are in different kind.
 
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We have one. Its called Homo Sapien Sapien.

There's shapes.
Then there are rectangles
Then there are squares.

You're a square trying to say that you are not a rectangle.

If so, then humans are 5D squares.
It is different.
 
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All right, then let's add statistical info to the definition:

Count all human populations, about 50% of human can raise and use fire.
Use this 50% figure as a criterion.
Chimps has 0.00001% in its population can light up fire with human assistance.
So, chimp should be classified to the monkey kind. Human kind is not a monkey kind.

Count all human populations, about 50% of human can raise and use fire.
Use this 50% figure as a criterion.
5 year olds have 0.00001% in its population can light up fire with human assistance.
So, 5 year olds should be classified to the 5 year old kind. Human kind is not a 5 year old kind.

Still fails.
 
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