Objects are moving in my house - what should i do?

Zoii · Jul 5, 2018

Look before jumping to the conclusion Satan is descending or you have ghosts or demons etc etc.... the more likely possibility is something far more inane. I suggest amping it down a bit and chilling. Now if stuff keeps happening then Id say OK - not normal - seek assistance.

But Im thinking most likely there is a more rational non-spirit explanation and perhaps just relaxing is your best option.

Dirk1540 · Jul 5, 2018

Was it ever said in here if the OP’s STORY had a link to any occult practices?

Valetic · Jul 5, 2018

Dirk1540 said:
Was it ever said in here if the OP’s STORY had a link to any occult practices?

The only reason I personally would guess that is because of older occupants. If not that then there is something severely demonic going on with the OP, a spirit moved in, or God is trying to say something other than that no idk

Dirk1540 · Jul 5, 2018

I just recall that earlier it was asked, wasn’t sure if he ever answered

Valetic · Jul 5, 2018

There could be lingering spirits in the area as well.. or something bad going on in the area causing it if it's demonic.

Idk if it was from God usually he's right there instantly to continue teaching like Jesus did right?

Valetic · Jul 5, 2018

I know from experience from dealing with a territorial spirit I smelled sulphur and garbage. Smell was awful.

Dirk1540 · Jul 6, 2018

Are they all territorial?
Let me ask about this hypothetical situation for fun. For whatever the reason you are hanging out with a group of new friends...little did you know they turn out to be deeply involved in the occult, they proceed to take out a Ouija board, light candles, summon spirit, etc.

You obviously refuse to join in, but in this hypothetical situation you are in a remote Canadian cabin and there is 2 feet of snow outside, it’s -5 degrees out, with a brutal wind chill factor of -20. There’s no other shelter for many miles. And you did not drive, you are at the mercy of waiting for the end of the night to get a ride home from one of the guys playing on the Ouija board. So although you’re not participating, you are in close proximity (small cabin). Let’s also suppose that the summoning of a spirit was a success.

Let’s even expand the hypothetical, a 2nd person also wants no parts of it yet they too are at their mercy for a ride home. You are a Christian, the 2nd person who wants no parts of it is not. Are you in danger of this spirit? Is the non-Christian in more danger of it than you? Or are neither of you in danger because you refuse to participate? And if it is true that either of you could be in danger of it, would it only be until you got out of there, or might it follow you home? And again, would the non-participating non-Christian be more at risk for it to follow him home than the non-participating Christian?

I’ve heard that you have to dabble in the occult to even be vulnerable towards any type of spiritual torment, but it would be an interesting monkey wrench if you were in the same large room as the activity.

JacksBratt · Jul 6, 2018

I will add my two cents.

These are real. No doubt about it.
People may laugh or here or make jokes... but it's real.

This is a demonic, or Satanic, entity. You have the power to expel it from your house. It does not need to be a Catholic Priest. It only has to be a Christian with faith.

It may be wise to have someone with more knowledge than you have, come to your house. Some elders of the Church and a Pastor. But it does not need to be a Priest.

Friends of mine had an entity in their house. They both had encounters but didn't mention it to each other for quite a while. Then, one of them mentioned it and they started sharing. Even their child had had encounters.

They got the Pastor and a couple of deacons to come and pray over the house. I think that they held a communion, made sure that they were purified and forgiven of any sins that they may have committed in the near past.

Then, they prayed over the house and commanded, in the name of Jesus and with the power of His Blood, that all powers of Satan or under Satan must leave the house. They claimed the house back as a sanctuary of the Lord and put a hedge or boundary around the house that no unrighteous entity may pass through.

Later that month they noticed that they would see the entity walking up and down the road at the front of their house... It could no longer come in to the sacred home and dwelling that belonged to God's people.

Valetic · Jul 6, 2018

Dirk1540 said:
Are they all territorial?

Not neccessarily. They would like to be. But more than anything possess a human.

Dirk1540 said:
For whatever the reason you are hanging out with a group of new friends...little did you know they turn out to be deeply involved in the occult, they proceed to take out a Ouija board, light candles, summon spirit, etc.

Ask them politely to stop because it's scaring you and making you feel uncomfortable.

Dirk1540 said:
You obviously refuse to join in, but in this hypothetical situation you are in a remote Canadian cabin and there is 2 feet of snow outside, it’s -5 degrees out, with a brutal wind chill factor of -20. There’s no other shelter for many miles. And you did not drive, you are at the mercy of waiting for the end of the night to get a ride home from one of the guys playing on the Ouija board. So although you’re not participating, you are in close proximity (small cabin).

Proceed to destroy it.

Dirk1540 said:
Let’s also suppose that the summoning of a spirit was a success.

Let’s even expand the hypothetical, a 2nd person also wants no parts of it yet they too are at their mercy for a ride home. You are a Christian, the 2nd person who wants no parts of it is not. Are you in danger of this spirit?

To an extent.

Dirk1540 said:
Is the non-Christian in more danger of it than you?

Probably.

Dirk1540 said:
Or are neither of you in danger because you refuse to participate?

Depends on the spirit.

Dirk1540 said:
And if it is true that either of you could be in danger of it, would it only be until you got out of there, or might it follow you home?

Either or neither or both.

Dirk1540 said:
And again, would the non-participating non-Christian be more at risk for it to follow him home than the non-participating Christian?

Probably.

Dirk1540 said:
I’ve heard that you have to dabble in the occult to even be vulnerable towards any type of spiritual torment

Wrong

Dirk1540 said:
but it would be an interesting monkey wrench if you were in the same large room as the activity.

I've been in that situation. Pm me if you like.

Sabertooth · Jul 6, 2018

Ancient of Days said:
I am curious, how do you know that "God would not do it"?

For one, this kind of phenomenon would follow the person (that He was trying to correct), not just be confined to a particular building.

GirdYourLoins · Jul 6, 2018

I was going to post a reply when I remembered that any advice on dealing with demons and deliverance is against the rules isnt it? Maybe you should contact a Christian Forums moderator for advice.

Dirk1540 · Jul 6, 2018

Valetic said:
Wrong

This is the only part of your reply that bothered me, why would a totally innocent person tend to be effected? If we rule out occult involvement, would the top reason be ignorant exposure to demonic idols? For instance idols laying around the house maybe just considered to be family ‘Travel Souvenirs’ for example?

Sabertooth · Jul 6, 2018

Dirk1540 said:
If we rule out occult involvement, would the top reason be ignorant exposure to demonic idols? For instance idols laying around the house maybe just considered to be family ‘Travel Souvenirs’ for example?

There are too many possibilities to diagnose from our armchairs. That is why I recommended that he contact local deliverance ministers. (Contrary to previous aspersions, it isn't necessary for one to join such a church in order to receive help. There are no strings attached.*)

*I would, however, recommend that the OP would spend some time with them to learn about his current situation and what to do about it. (Remember, he labeled himself a "seeker," so they will have to bring him up to speed on a few things.)

Dirk1540 · Jul 6, 2018

I love the topic, it’s fun, but as far as my measuring rod to believe an individual account of PROOF that the supernatural took place VS my general beliefs in the possibility of the supernatural, they are worlds apart.

I guess I should save my posts on this matter for a thread that’s a general discussion on the topic, instead on one that claims to be a cry for help on the matter. I was about to make a huge post on some of my general thoughts of the supernatural, I’ll save that for another place.

Kiterius · Jul 6, 2018

SolomonVII said:
They have a long history of ruling out false claims or mental illness, and authenticating whether the cause of the disturbance is actually demonic. They do accept that demonic explanations are possible, unlike secular scientists whose world view precludes such phenomena, but even as they are open to the possibility of supernatural cause, they are skeptical of accepting that the causes are anything other than ordinary.

I personally don't even know if they are all that open to taking calls about such things, but as far as investigation goes, they bring a good attitude toward such phenomena.

The right attitude to bring into such a situation is that something psychological and/or otherwise natural is going on. Since it is reasonably light objects that are allegedly being tossed about, perhaps the true culprit is neither God nor Satan but wind.

GirdYourLoins · Jul 6, 2018

There seems to be a varied view on the reality and likelihood of demonic activity. I tend to find most people are skeptical of it until they witness something for themselves. In my early days (literally weeks) as a a Christian I came across someone I instantly knew was demon possessed. I didnt know how to deal with it but felt no fear and stood looking at him at which point he went from trying to be intimidating to walking away with his head down and without saying another word. Since then I have been open to the fact that demonic activity is real, but it is also rare that we experience it. There is that old saying "The devils greatest trick was to make people believe he doesnt exist". There is a lot of truth in this and it is why we dont see much obvious demonic activity. I think it is dangerous to completely deny demonic activity, it is real but rarely in a form that is so obvious and usually far more subtle. Pray for spiritual discernment in recognising demonic activity and I think you will be surprised where you see it. One major area is the liberal left, which can be evidenced in their crusade to legalise abortion for any reason up to birth.

thecolorsblend · Jul 6, 2018

Kiterius said:
God can work through anyone he so chooses - be they Catholic or not. God is omnipotent.

You’re entitled to your opinion.

My recommendation of consulting with the Catholic Church stands, however.

Kiterius · Jul 6, 2018

thecolorsblend said:
You’re entitled to your opinion.

My recommendation of consulting with the Catholic Church stands, however.

So... You don't believe God is all powerful? What limits his power iyho?

Tropical Wilds · Jul 6, 2018

I grew up in a house with ghosts and we’ve just discovered that our current house is haunted. Since I suspect you aren’t into the solutions I’d provide, simply ignore it.

Stringfellow_Hawke · Jul 6, 2018

I've never had any experience like things moving on their own. I've never witnessed it either. However, I have felt a dark presence following me before. It was four years ago around this time. I know it got to me because at the time I was feeling extreme hatred and resentment for a client from where I worked at the time. It was bad. I was thinking of ways I could make this person miserable or even kill them.

In all this anger, I felt its presence. It followed me. I couldn't sleep without knowing it was standing right there. In my car, in my office, everywhere. It was like it was just waiting for the right moment to strike. As that got stronger and stronger, I finally talked with some Godly friends and mentors and they told me flat out, "You're a child of God. Tell it to be gone In The Name of Jesus Christ. Go into every room in your house and use the Authority He gave you." So I did just that. Stood up straight and without hesitation commanded it to be gone. To depart from my home, from my presence and from my family In The Name of Jesus Christ the Son of God.

Its been gone ever since.

Just my experience and my two cents.

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