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Just because somebody goes to a church with a given theology doesn't mean that they subscribe to it.

Yes, but it is generally accepted to be a pretty good indicator.

IE, if one attends a Mormon church or a Baptist church, chances are that one is either a Mormon or a Baptist as the case may be.
 
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Yes, but it is generally accepted to be a pretty good indicator.

IE, if one attends a Mormon church or a Baptist church, chances are that one is either a Mormon or a Baptist as the case may be.
Especially if one attends that church for twenty years
 
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Just wonderful:

Obama and FARC

Well....at least we know now. We didn't know about Ng Lap Seng, Riady and the others until Clinton had been elected. We didn't know about the KGB mole in the Carter campaign and Carter's approach to the Soviet embassy for help with his reelection until the 1990s.
 
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Pay no attention. Not worth our time.

Trying to avoid the issue by making every bad thing said about Bush over the past eight years about me is proof of that.
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Pay no attention

ROFL!! This reminds me of the scene in the Wizard of Oz when the 'wizard' was behind the curtain saying "Pay no attention to that man behind that curtain"

hee hee
 
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Oh man, the Obama and FARC bit perfectly crystallizes the irrational and desperate attempts at demonization beyond even the most absurd standards of mud slinging. Because some columbian thug had it on his computer he spoke to 'two gringos' who assured him Obama would be the next Prez there is suddenly a connection or consiracy? Amazing how many peeps are obama campaigners who dont even realize it.
 
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I heard obama appeared on an episode of Star Trek just so he could use a time maching to travel back to 1980 and steal Jedi Master mind control secrets to audibly intoxicate his audience into mindless drones that would pay not attention to his geneology where it is speculated runs back through the Ottoman Empire all the way to Ishmael and Obama is trying to keep it a secret he is carrying out a family revenge on Abraham for giving all to Isaac.
 
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Aside from Rev Wright, national security will be what ends Obama's career. From AP today:

Rep. King: Al-Qaida would celebrate Obama victory

Let us not forget Obama's associate, Raila Odinga, promised Muslims in Kenya Sharia law if they voted for him in last Kenyan election.

Some background on the policies the man who flew to Iowa to endorse Barack Hussein Obama is promoting in Kenya:

The roots of the violence [/url]

"Majimbo" sounds familiar, doesn't it?
King sounds like the man who isn't fit for office. This is no different that the anti-Catholic sentiment used in the past to smear candidates about their 'allegiance' to the pope. The GOP is demonstrating that same level of desperation.

How exactly does this represent a national security issues? Please be specific.

Do you think that any administration that would promote power sharing in Kenya would be an issue?
 
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Just wonderful:

Obama and FARC

Well....at least we know now. We didn't know about Ng Lap Seng, Riady and the others until Clinton had been elected. We didn't know about the KGB mole in the Carter campaign and Carter's approach to the Soviet embassy for help with his reelection until the 1990s.
More questions the Democrat needs to answer

1. Is it true Obama would cut off Plan Colombia military aid to our ally, which would serve the terrorist group FARC's interests?
2. Does Obama still oppose a free trade agreement for Colombia, even though that puts him on the same side as FARC in the debate?
3. Does Obama know or care that one of his staffers or supporters is claiming to disclose his positions in secret meetings with FARC terrorists outside government channels?
4. Can he tell us why his supporters would pass on such information to terrorists, and what he or she could gain from it?
5. Will Obama, as president, treat FARC as the serious terrorists they are, given that they still hold three Americans hostage?
If I recall, this wouldn't be the first time Democrats bailed on people we were previously helping in South America.
 
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Does Obama know or care that one of his staffers or supporters is claiming to disclose his positions in secret meetings with FARC terrorists outside government channels?

What about

"Does Investors Daily have any evidence this is true?"

So some guy talks to two Americans and suddenly they are Obama staffers or supporters? Where is the evidence that the conversation actually took place and is not simply a fabrication of one guy telling another what he wants to hear?

Where is the evidence that they were supporters or staffers of Obama? Make no mistake, that article is not journalism. It is editorial based on what the author wants to be true, not what is true.

Pretty thin. Is there a Youtube video that could perhaps provide more evidence?
 
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What about

"Does Investors Daily have any evidence this is true?"

So some guy talks to two Americans and suddenly they are Obama staffers or supporters?

Where is the evidence that they were supporters or staffers of Obama? Make no mistake, that article is not journalism. It is editorial based on what the author wants to be true, not what is true.

Pretty thin. Is there a Youtube video that could perhaps provide more evidence?

Sounds like you gots some research to do if you would like to dis-prove the information in the article. :)
 
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Im having trouble understanding all the speculation around obama and islamic rule. Where is this criticism for the bush admin paving the way for Sharia law in iraq? They allowed the Shiite dominated government to make their verison of islam the official state religion and no law may be passed that contradicts Islam. Have a feeling many peeps are ignorant of this fact.
 
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Im having trouble understanding all the speculation around obama and islamic rule. Where is this criticism for the bush admin paving the way for Sharia law in iraq? They allowed the Shiite dominated government to make their verison of islam the official state religion and no law may be passed that contradicts Islam. Have a feeling many peeps are ignorant of this fact.

I was.
 
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Sounds like you gots some research to do if you would like to dis-prove the information in the article. :)

I already showed that the comments don't match the presented evidence and wondered if there was any real evidence to support the claims being made.

That is about all that can be done to demonstrate that a claim is a biased unsupported assertion based on hearsay and fueled by wishful thinking.

Ever find that Obama interview?
 
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Sounds like you gots some research to do if you would like to dis-prove the information in the article. :)
Once a Democrat declares a news story to not be journalism, no further proof is necessary. :D
 
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Once a Democrat declares a news story to not be journalism, no further proof is necessary. :D

No, I appropriately pointed out the burden of proof was not met to support the conclusions. That is a fair demonstration that the article is not journalism.

That it appears on the Editorials and Opinions page is another good indicator.
 
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No, I appropriately pointed out the burden of proof was not met to support the conclusions. That is a fair demonstration that the article is not journalism.

That it appears on the Editorials and Opinions page is another good indicator.
Just like I said

Once a Democrat declares a news story to not be journalism, no further proof is necessary. :D
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