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Poll numbers fifty-odd days into a Presidency that's taking place during a crisis doesn't necessarily mean that Obama's going to be an unpopular President.
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Comparing Obama to Bush as this point in their presidencies is apples and oranges. Obama is faced with an economy on the edge of a cliff. Bush was faced with...well....um...nothing. This early on in the Bush era all appearances pointed to an unnoteworthy presidency in an unnoteworthy era. That all changed one Tuesday morning in September.
 
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Comparing Obama to Bush as this point in their presidencies is apples and oranges. Obama is faced with an economy on the edge of a cliff. Bush was faced with...well....um...nothing. This early on in the Bush era all appearances pointed to an unnoteworthy presidency in an unnoteworthy era. That all changed one Tuesday morning in September.
Obama is experiencing a contracting economy that he neither caused nor will he stop. It is the natural ebb and flow of the world economic cycle and we will recover in 12-15 years, after we go flat to the bottom in the next 2-3 years.
 
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Obama is experiencing a contracting economy that he neither caused nor will he stop. It is the natural ebb and flow of the world economic cycle and we will recover in 12-15 years, after we go flat to the bottom in the next 2-3 years.
Regardless of the causes (a valid discussion for another thread), Obama is a president during a tough time and will makes decisions that will get many upset. In contrast, Bush's early decisions were of such little consequence that few cared enough to get upset.
 
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I think a lot of people thought that the economy would do a U-turn the moment he was elected.
All joking aside, you have to admit that sometimes his campaign rhetoric was a little over the top. I mean, he said that if he was elected that the ocean waters would start to recede. I mean, really?
 
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All joking aside, you have to admit that sometimes his campaign rhetoric was a little over the top. I mean, he said that if he was elected that the ocean waters would start to recede. I mean, really?

Three times the waters did recedeth in the age of Obama, and three times did they return. And lo, he favored the waters of the oceans with his countenance and indeed they returned.
 
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Three times the waters did recedeth in the age of Obama, and three times did they return.

Is that another example of Ringo's Law (see my signature)?
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Is that another example of Ringo's Law (see my signature)?
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Behold, he favoreth the oceans with his countenance and lo they recedeth. So uttereth Obama when he doth deign to grace us with his countenance. And woe to him who hath not seen the light, for behold, in the Age of Obama, Obama came among us. And when he came amongst us, he did cast his light upon us. And when people behold his light, they became enlightened and cried, "Woe be unto those who hath not seen the light of Barack, for in seeing the light of Barack, we will vote for Barack."
 
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Which leads to my corollary: Only those who cannot offer good arguments are those who insert comments about Obama being a "Messiah".
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Which leads to my corollary: Only those who cannot offer good arguments are those who insert comments about Obama being a "Messiah".
Ringo

Woe! Woe! Woe unto the for thou doth not followeth in the path of the lightworker! I sayeth again! Woe!
 
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Which leads to my corollary: Only those who cannot offer good arguments are those who insert comments about Obama being a "Messiah".
Ringo
Why make a substantiated arguement when sarcasm works just as well?
 
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Why make a substantiated arguement when sarcasm works just as well?

Therein lies the problem: why make a good argument that leads to good discussion when one can simply fall back on tired smears about Obama being a "Messiah"?

Sarcasm isn't the problem. Failing to add anything good to a discussion except for unwarranted smears is the problem.
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Therein lies the problem: why make a good argument that leads to good discussion when one can simply fall back on tired smears about Obama being a "Messiah"?

Sarcasm isn't the problem. Failing to add anything good to a discussion except for unwarranted smears is the problem.
Ringo

There's a whole blog about it.

It's where I get my information.
 
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Thou art not following the path of the Lightworker.
Of course I am. I am the Light Maker. I make light of everything. Even gunning down liberal professors at Dartmouth College. I even have the Christianity Police chasing me around the forums doing a card check on me wherever I go.
 
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