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I beileve nudity is only a sin if you are nude at a place where it is against the law to be nude and 2 things why is it against the law to be nude in public and i would so love it if every one was nude(no not for the lust keep your mind out of the gutter)
 
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Many Christains oppose nudism as they do not believe that the human body should be seen publicly. I do not accept shame as a basis of moral values, as that is a strange principle for somethng that derives from God. Before condemning nudism Christian we may wish to reflect on the following.

Why are many Christian parents who have fulfilled Christian sexual standards still embarrassed by an innocent young child's question "Where did I come from?"

Why is there so much interest in sexual topics on this forum? Is human sexuality a very important issue for people?

Why can't many of the posters openly discuss personal sexual issues within their local churches?

Why is there so much confusion and guilt surrounding sex amongst Christians when churches claim to have God's answers?

Why do Christians oppose sex education in schools yet many Christian parents fail to communicate effectively with their own children about sex?

Christians who oppose nudism often seem to me are failing to see the contradictions and general unease with sex that abounds within the general Christian community, yet are ready to denounce Christians who have broken out of the body/shame mould, and who are no longer bound by the naked=sex reflex that is part of our society. Before dismissing Christins who accept nudism it would be well to consder that all really is not that well and healthy within the wider Chistian community about many sexual matters, a plank and speck situation perhaps?

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I don't think there are too many people who could handle public nudity, certainly not in this society and in our human, imperfect state. Maybe when we get to heaven we'll be nude then, but we'll have glorified bodies and there will be no sin, no shame, no disease, no imperfection, no deformity and no need to cover up. :angel:
 
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bryanac625 said:
I don't think there are too many people who could handle public nudity, certainly not in this society and in our human, imperfect state. Maybe when we get to heaven we'll be nude then, but we'll have glorified bodies and there will be no sin, no shame, no disease, no imperfection, no deformity and no need to cover up. :angel:

:eek: :eek: WHAT? I thought when we go to heaven, we will wear some sort of robes or something? :o :doh:
 
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Nudism is plain impractical in most climates. Wh do you think humans needed to start making clothes in the first place? Because human life as we know it originated in a hot climate and there was no real need for a lot of hair or fur. Then humans began to migrate to colder climates and the ones who weren't smart enough to make clothing died:)

If you can make it work on an island, why not. But not where I live.
 
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thenewageriseth said:
:eek: :eek: WHAT? I thought when we go to heaven, we will wear some sort of robes or something? :o :doh:

Take a look in Genesis and see what God's original intention for mankind was: that we should be "naked and unashamed." When God sets everything right again, some may choose to "wear robes or something" but clearly many will be clothed only in His light. Perhaps you'd just never given this much thought before. I suspect that in the resurrection many people will be quite surprised.:)

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thenewageriseth said:
No one wants to see that in public...yuck! There are kids outside, sometimes! They don't need to see that, either!
Not like kids don't know what they are or don't have them themselves. Don't stare if you don't like what you see. Isn't that what they tell you to do with the retarded people in elementary shcool: don't stare or point?
 
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Many Christains oppose nudism as they do not believe that the human body should be seen publicly. I do not accept shame as a basis of moral values, as that is a strange principle for somethng that derives from God. Before condemning nudism Christian we may wish to reflect on the following.

Why are many Christian parents who have fulfilled Christian sexual standards still embarrassed by an innocent young child's question "Where did I come from?"

Why is there so much interest in sexual topics on this forum? Is human sexuality a very important issue for people?

Why can't many of the posters openly discuss personal sexual issues within their local churches?

Why is there so much confusion and guilt surrounding sex amongst Christians when churches claim to have God's answers?

Why do Christians oppose sex education in schools yet many Christian parents fail to communicate effectively with their own children about sex?

Christians who oppose nudism often seem to me are failing to see the contradictions and general unease with sex that abounds within the general Christian community, yet are ready to denounce Christians who have broken out of the body/shame mould, and who are no longer bound by the naked=sex reflex that is part of our society. Before dismissing Christins who accept nudism it would be well to consder that all really is not that well and healthy within the wider Chistian community about many sexual matters, a plank and speck situation perhaps?


You've brought up a good point. Sex has not been talked about much in church.... but hopefully that's changing. I personally dont know if nudism is sin... I just like hearing other people's opinion.

There is a general unease with sex in the church... maybe in part because of what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body." Then he goes on to talk about our bodies being temples of the Holy Spirit.

Do you want to know my opinion? I dont think nudism or being naked is in itself a sin. (Everybody keeps referencing back to being in the shower.) But I believe that being naked is a sin IF your freedom in being naked causes somene else to sin.
1 Cor. 7:9 "Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak." I know Paul was referring to food, but the same princile applies.

Earlier in this post someone said that all guys can be tempted by nudity. I agree with that.. I'm not saying that all guys are perverts, BUT that God wired them to be visually oriented.. just like women are emotionally oriented.

I think if Christian parents taught their kids to see sex the way God sees it (a beautiful thing between MAN and WIFE), we would have a whole lot less problems. When Adam and Eve sinned, their whole outlook on life was changed. Satan tries to perverse everything that God designed, and for a while the church has taken in the lie that sex is ugly.

My final word... don't go around in your birthday suit if it causes someone to stumble in their faith... And looking at our pass and fail rate, there's a pretty good chance it will.
 
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That's a load of tommyrot. I've seen heaps of people naked and not behaved in an untoward manner.

If someone stumbles in their faith, they ought to do what babies do - pick themselves up and walk again. It's just a body. Get over it.
 
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thenewageriseth said:
No one wants to see that in public...yuck! There are kids outside, sometimes! They don't need to see that, either!

Actually, young children are natural nudists. If you have evr worked with children four and under, then you know how hard it is to get them to put their clothes back on if they are comfortable and having fun. Kids HATE taking the time to put on clothing several times a day.

A couple of month ago, I saw a naked young boy around three, pushing a toy lawnmower next to his dad while his dad was mowing the front yard. The boy couldn't have cared less that he was naked. His dad couldn't have cared less and their neighbors didn't seem to mind either. And my wife and I didn't mind, actually feeling somewhat jealous for the freedon the child had.

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thenewageriseth said:
:eek: :eek: WHAT? I thought when we go to heaven, we will wear some sort of robes or something? :o :doh:

Actually, the Bible talks about us wearing the Righteousness of Christ which is LIKE (symbolic) a white robe.

Son-cerely,
Nathan Powers
 
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larkspur said:
I think if Christian parents taught their kids to see sex the way God sees it (a beautiful thing between MAN and WIFE), we would have a whole lot less problems. When Adam and Eve sinned, their whole outlook on life was changed. Satan tries to perverse everything that God designed, and for a while the church has taken in the lie that sex is ugly.

You are exactly right an several studies of families that raise their children in nudist/naturist homes bares witness to that very fact.


larkspur said:
My final word... don't go around in your birthday suit if it causes someone to stumble in their faith... And looking at our pass and fail rate, there's a pretty good chance it will.

Correct again. As long as most people associate "nakedness" with "sexuality", we have to be careful how we broach the subject. There are certain people that cannot handle the truth, just as there are certain people that cannot handle a single glass of wine, or a buffet without going overboard. Everything in moderation and practicality.


Son-cerely,
Nathan Powers
 
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Natman said:
You are exactly right an several studies of families that raise their children in nudist/naturist homes bares witness to that very fact.

I think you meant "bears witness", but that way of putting it is not unfitting given the topic. ;)
 
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ONE MORE REASON TO STAY NAKED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

I have been going nude running and jogging during my lunch breaks for about the last four or five months in an effort to loose a few pounds, build up my stamina, increase my levels of Vitamin "D" and darken my skin. Fortunately there are trails not too far from my office where I can go, saving time as well as the costs of a gym and a tanning booth.

I generally wear blue jeans because I am more comfortable without underwear in jeans rather than slacks. (Undies are one less thing I have to take off or put back on.) I have been stripping down at a trail head, then walking, jogging and running for about 40 minutes. Then I will walk for about 5 minutes to try to cool down. I bring a bath towel with me to dry off before getting dressed to return to work. However, it takes about thirty minutes for my body to cool down enough to quit sweating, even in an air conditioned office.

The result is that my groin continues to perspire inside my blue jeans, creating the perfect environment for bacteria and fungus. Consequently, I have developed a case of "jock itch" (even though I don't wear one), known as "tinea cruris" caused by a fungus called "Trichophyton rubrum", the same fungus that causes athlete's foot. It is constantly itchy and annoying and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

This would not have occurred if I did not have to get re-dressed in order to return to work. Otherwise I would be able to cool down and dry off completely. Also, had I remained dressed while running in this south east Texan heat and humidity, the problem would be far worse than it is.

This is just one more reason we should be able to be naked whenever practical.

Son-cerely,
Nathan Powers
 
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