Nude Art

[kopilo]

Just wondering if people considering nude art, in specific nude photography, pornography, or if there is a line in concept to distinct the two.

Personally I see a difference between nude photography art and pornography and that the human form can be used to display emotive images (either then lust) etc.

So what is your stance? is it art or is it porn, is it immoral or is it not?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Personally I see a difference between nude photography art and pornography and that the human form can be used to display emotive images (either then lust) etc.

I see that difference too.

 

[IceJad]

I really can't see the difference. What is the photographer wants from capturing a nude body? Isn't it the fact that it is nude that he is capturing the picture. What is the message behind the inspiration?

Truthfully I think it is just a cheap way to commit a sin without the guilt or judgement of other people. In the name of art lets get naked and pose. If you wish to capture the essence of someone even fully clothed the essence would be apperent. Can sadness be better captured nude? Of can the theme of naked truth be less effective if people got clothes?

The thing is we are even encouraging a sin. It is said that if you lust for someone then you have commited a sin. A nude photograph is all it takes to help people do just that.

Some can say that its the person's fault to lust but would you leave your car unlock in a New York carpark? Same logic just different application.

You might disagree and I'm totally ok with it.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I really can't see the difference. What is the photographer wants from capturing a nude body? Isn't it the fact that it is nude that he is capturing the picture. What is the message behind the inspiration?

If you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you. It really is there, but I can't make you see it. I guess this is a little like the flipside of Christians telling atheists they lack spiritual discernment.

 

[Febe]

Just wondering if people considering nude art, in specific nude photography, pornography, or if there is a line in concept to distinct the two.

Personally I see a difference between nude photography art and pornography and that the human form can be used to display emotive images (either then lust) etc.

So what is your stance? is it art or is it porn, is it immoral or is it not?
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Well, I do not find Zorn to be pornografic...

 

[IceJad]

If you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you. It really is there, but I can't make you see it. I guess this is a little like the flipside of Christians telling atheists they lack spiritual discernment.

Maybe you can help me understand. I'm the kind of person that value morality more then estatics. It is hard for me not to think of the photographed subject as a cheap person that is willing to give up the body to gain some money/fame. To me nude image is erotic art. Still art but for all the wrong reasons.

In a world where sex sells it is hard not to think that way. Why put sexy ladies to advertise something? It is easier to catch attention. Sex can even sell in words. Just make a survery on rape stories, sex scandals and sexual orientated stories are some of the most read articles in the papers. Even I sometimes am just to intrigue to not read about it.

 

[Moros]

Depends on the intention of the artist.

"I'm not a pornographer. A pornographer is someone who has to give the reader an erection. That's why they make their money. I'm not at all interested in my readers getting erections."
- Vladimir Sorokin

Best example there is.

 

[kopilo]

I really can't see the difference. What is the photographer wants from capturing a nude body? Isn't it the fact that it is nude that he is capturing the picture. What is the message behind the inspiration?

Truthfully I think it is just a cheap way to commit a sin without the guilt or judgement of other people. In the name of art lets get naked and pose. If you wish to capture the essence of someone even fully clothed the essence would be apperent. Can sadness be better captured nude? Of can the theme of naked truth be less effective if people got clothes?

Sadness actually seems to be a rather popular theme in some nude photography.. for example, maybe placed in a crime scene, or combining nude art with self mutilation (someone hugging their knees with cuts down their back and messeges written on their arms). The issue with clothes can be where it cuts/divides a figure or even changes the figures shape.. hmm put it this way if you wrote a messege on someones back the last thing you want is for a bra strap to be blocking one of the lines.

I do see your point of if someone uses your image against your intial intent, then it could be said that you helped that person sin by creating the tool (well along those lines).

 

[Greyshade89]

In my honest opinion, I think our bodies are created for our husband/wife, and for them only. I dont think it is moral for it to be shown even in art.

 

[Kroger99]

Personally, for me...there is a fine line between Art and Porn. Not quite sure how to describe it, but for me....there is a diference. The human body is a beautiful thing (for me, I'm being female specific...lol), but there is alot of so-called art out there that I have no interest in because I see it as porn.


Clear as mud...right? LOL

 

[Athene]

There's a big difference between pornography and nude art, in pornography there is more emphasis on the genital area and if female on the breasts, the figure is often engaged in some kind of sexual activity like masturbation, nude art places much less emphasis on the genital area and tries to present the human form as a whole.

 

[Kroger99]

There's a big difference between pornography and nude art, in pornography there is more emphasis on the genital area and if female on the breasts, the figure is often engaged in some kind of sexual activity like masturbation, nude art places much less emphasis on the genital area and tries to present the human form as a whole.

Well put...I agree

 

[Eudaimonist]

There's a big difference between pornography and nude art, in pornography there is more emphasis on the genital area and if female on the breasts, the figure is often engaged in some kind of sexual activity like masturbation, nude art places much less emphasis on the genital area and tries to present the human form as a whole.

That's a very good point. An emphasis on wholeness is an emphasis on beauty, and can be used to artistically hint at "inner beauty".

 

[IceJad]

In my honest opinion, I think our bodies are created for our husband/wife, and for them only. I dont think it is moral for it to be shown even in art.

I'm impressed that someone of your age have taken a stand. A lot of youths I came across are just too open with sexual issues. Whether is art or just social a lot of youths just think it is a norm thing.

You're truely amazing.

I just wish more girls are like you.

 

[kopilo]

I'm impressed that someone of your age have taken a stand. A lot of youths I came across are just too open with sexual issues. Whether is art or just social a lot of youths just think it is a norm thing.

You're truely amazing.

I just wish more girls are like you.

Well actually a lot of "youths" are not really that open to sexual issues, especaily coming from a dancers POV.. Personaly there is a point when I find this an issue, and that is when someone's innabitions are stopping them from doing or enjoying something which will not hurt them and they could enjoy a lot out of, eg dancing, massarges.

 

[Wiffey]

It depends...what is the intention, how artfully was it done, etc. If there is little artistic quality and the photo is obviously done to expose or objectify someone, I'd call it porn. If it is creative and beautiful and not degrading or demeaning, I'd say art. But it is so highly subjective...


It is one of those things where each person needs to judge for themselves...see what they are comfortable with or not.

 

[Greyshade89]

I'm impressed that someone of your age have taken a stand. A lot of youths I came across are just too open with sexual issues. Whether is art or just social a lot of youths just think it is a norm thing.

You're truely amazing.

I just wish more girls are like you.

Awe, thank you very much. There are more girls like me out there..probably better. Keep looking for her.

 

[xAtheistx]

Every guys' dream... a 16 year old girl who disapproves of porn.

 

[seamonster]

I definitely believe that there is a fine line between nude art and porn. When you view a painting with nudity, you aren't thinking "DAMN, I want to *bleepity bleep* that person." It usually tries to present the human form in all it's beauty, whereas porn is inherently sex-based and created to stimulate. Nude art is not usually created to stimulate, but to admire.

 

[kopilo]

It is one of those things where each person needs to judge for themselves...see what they are comfortable with or not.

LOL, just like every piece of art.

There seems to be no formular to what looks good and what looks bad.