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Within the core of a Star, as the Hydrogen atoms &, or elements [sup]2[/sup][sub]1[/sub]H & [sup]3[/sup][sub]1[/sub]H scatter off the dense gas particles in the interior & move about a centimeter between collisions (i.e., Nuclear Fusion & Nuclear Fission which involves entropic nuclear reactions) & in each collision they transfer some of their energy to the gas particles & by the space ▲ the time Photons finally reach the photosphere of the Sun.... the high energy electromagnetic gamma radiation particle rays that they once was they're no-longer, because they've now become the Photons of a much lower energy radiation, or luminous particles (i.e., visible light).

Note: Since the core of any active Star(s) posses extreme density, heat & is under extreme pressure via electromagnetic gravitation, naturally the two Hydrogen atoms &, or elements [sup]2[/sup][sub]1[/sub]H & [sup]3[/sup][sub]1[/sub]H continuously traveling at the velocity of "c" contained within the E = mc[sup]2[/sup] (i.e., 1.86 • 10[sup]5[/sup] Mps, or 186,282.397 Mps) during the process of nuclear fusion & nuclear fission within the core of Stars Neutrons are absorbed & emitted via the binding & separating of the four fundamental forces (i.e., Strong, Electromagnetic, Weak & Gravitation).

The below image visually illustrate(s) only one of the high energy chemical reactions (i.e., Nuclear Fusion) occurring within Stars & our yellow dwarf Star..... the following end result of attempting to fuse two positively (i.e., ++) charged Hydrogen atoms together & create the nucleon element [sup]5[/sup][sub]2[/sub]He (i.e.,[sup]5[/sup][sub]2[/sub]Helium = 2 Protons ↔ 3 Neutrons) during fusion as visually illustrated below will produce the element [sup]5[/sup][sub]2[/sub]He with the nucleus of 2 Protons ↔ 3 Neutrons, in which pertaining to E = m (i.e., energy Δ matter) is electromagnetically unstable, therefore during the nuclear fusion process a free Neutron is immediately ejects with a energy of 14.1 MeV (i.e., Mega electron Volts) & the recoil energy of the remaining nucleon [sup]4[/sup][sub]2[/sub]He (i.e., 2 Protons ↔ 2 Neutrons = [sup]4[/sup][sub]2[/sub]Helium) nucleus is 3.5 MeV.

Deuterium = [sup]2[/sup][sub]1[/sub]H (i.e.,1 Proton ↔ 1 Neutron) + Tritium = [sup]3[/sup][sub]1[/sub]H (i.e.,1 Proton ↔ 2 Neutrons) = [sup]5[/sup][sub]2[/sub]He = [sup]4[/sup][sub]2[/sub]Helium

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Not that thermonuclear fusion isn't fascinating, especially in stars, but what's your point?

My question, exactly. I am always willing to learn. But maybe with my particular level of I.Q. and science education I need some help to grok the profundity of the O.P.

Could someone - anyone -explain in plain English what the point of this thread possibly could be?
 
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"Nuclear fusion is oresum", I think.


And yellow



(OK, so I'm not sure how the 3.5MeV nucleus stands still, but I don't want to ask even though I still believe in conservation of momentum which suggests it would continue moving down, no just don't ask, maybe the thread will stay unlocked into the second page)
 
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Is it worth viewing the OP post (On ignore right now), or is it more of the same stuff.

It genuinely seems like a basic statement of solar nuclear fusion. No comments are made about it, nor any wacky claims. A rather unique post, for a change, but nothing exciting.
 
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Hmmm, okay I'll bite, probably because I'm new and don't know any better...

  • In the core of stars, it is extremely unlikely you have any elemental hydrogen left.
  • The hydrogen IS the dense gas particles.
  • There shouldn't be any nuclear fission going on inside of a star.
  • Not all fusion/fission increases entropy, but if we stick just to main sequence stars, then the fusion is.
  • There are special cases in which a high energy photon can enter a crystal and come out as two lower energy photons, but the sun isn't a crystal-rich environment. If you start out as a photon of gamma energy, that's how you exit.
  • "Electromagnetic gravity"? I wasn't aware those two fundamental forces had been unified.
  • Nothing with rest mass (like hydrogen or helium) ever moves at c unless relativity is completely wrong.
  • Fusion is not a chemical reaction, it's a nuclear reaction.
  • Our sun is a main sequence star, not a "yellow dwarf."
  • Deuterium-Tritium fusion in our sun is relatively rare.
 
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Hmmm, okay I'll bite, probably because I'm new and don't know any better...

  • Our sun is a main sequence star, not a "yellow dwarf."


  • Actually, it is both. It is classified as a "Yellow Dwarf" or "G2" star. It is considered a "main sequence" star, because it is still burning mostly hydrogen. Red dwarfs and Blue Giants are also considered "main sequence," while Red Giants and Supergiants are not "main sequence," since they are burning helium and are in the process of dying.
 
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Note: Irrelevant to the amount of space Δ time that passes (i.e., 1 year, 1 million years, 1 billion years, 1 trillion years) 1 + 1 will never equal 11 (not within this dimensional reality).

But, to appropriately answer your nonsensical question(s) serious, I must say..... "A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste".
 
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Actually, it is both.

Actually, Split Rock you're incorrect too, wherefore our yellow dwarf star (i.e., the Sun) is called "yellow dwarf" & is viewed as "yellow dwarf" for good reasons.... example.

Example: Within the above phrased term the word "yellow" referrers to the Sun's current age, wherefore if you were to travel (5 • 10[sup]9[/sup]) into the future, the term &, or word "yellow" will no longer apply, but the term &, or word
"red giant" will apply & the term &, or word "dwarf" referrers to the Sun's current mass.

Note: All things (e.g., height, width, depth, space, distance, time, knowledge, understanding,....) is *relative* &, or is always *relative* to something else.
 
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1 + 1 will never equal 11 (not within this dimensional reality).

You only say that because you haven't been "indoctrinated" by college and learned to look beyond what you were "indoctrinated" into as a child. You should broaden your horizons and study abstraction a bit. See Unary numeral system for an example of 1+1=11.
 
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You only say that because you haven't been "indoctrinated" by college and learned to look beyond what you were "indoctrinated" into as a child. You should broaden your horizons and study abstraction a bit. See Unary numeral system for an example of 1+1=11.

Impartially &, or unbiasedly speaking JBJoe, my secular & spiritual horizon(s) are well broaden. But, let's talk about "indoctrination", because even as a (non Christian) child growing-up within the USA educational system(s), wherefore I (& perhaps you also) can vividly remember such obvious indoctrination as.... "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Now, to precisely detect the indoctrination &, or fallacies within the USA educational system(s), etc "pledge" above, I must dissect analyze it from a logical perspective, so let's begin.


  • "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America"
The action(s) of any individual(s) pledging their allegiance(s) to anyone except God, is extremely & eternally dangerous for the following reason:

One of the dictionary definitions for the term &, or word "allegiance" is "the obligations of a vassal to a lord." Therefore any individual(s) pledging their allegiance(s) to the flag is simultaneously declaring to whosoever that, their God (i.e., salvation, joy, hope,....) is in this nation / country.


  • "and to the Republic for which it stands"
Also, any individual(s) pledging their allegiance(s) to the "Republic" is simultaneously declaring to whosoever that, their God (i.e., salvation, joy, hope,....) is in this nation / country too.


  • "one Nation under God"
Now, to some the above phrase sounds spiritually correct, but impartially &, or unbiasedly speaking, historically it's a fallacy, the USA nation / country was not & is not under (i.e., controlled via) God (in which is the only factually historical truth that Obama said "on Easter Sunday" & I agree with 100%), wherefore many of the citizens of the USA & many foreigners are well aware of all the (past & present) atrocities inflicted upon them courtesy of this alleged Christian nation / country.

It is obvious that, the individual(s) who for their own reason(s), agenda(s), etc state that this (USA) country / nation was founded upon the Christian belief(s), principal(s), etc &, or is a Christian country / nation do not realize that stating that incorrect, erroneous &, or unsubstantiated statement(s) is instantaneously declare to the entire world the following fallacies:

  1. God is not only evil, but He is even more evil that Satan, the Devil, etc who He created.
  2. God is not only a liar, but He is the ultimate liar & surpasses any lie(s) that Satan will speak.
  3. God's word(s) contained within His Bible (from Genesis -to- Revelation) is a book filled with lies.
  4. God (who is suppose to be perfect in all things) is imperfect in all things.
  5. God is (carnal, sinful, etc) just like fallen mankind.
  6. God, His word(s) &, or Christians can not &, or should not ever be trusted.
HERE IS JUST ONE OF TOO MANY WELL DOCUMENTED EXAMPLES OF THE USA PAGANISM


  • The United States Constitution was created on September 17, 1787 in which was followed afterwards by Articles of the Constitution & the Subsequent Amendments..... But, the first record of African slavery in Colonial America occurred in 1619 & from 1654 until 1865, slavery for life was legal within the boundaries of the present United States.
So, according to the hypocrite(s) of this USA country / nation God (the all loving, knowing, etc being) secretly loves &, or condones atrocities, etc.

The USA continuously (& foolishly) strut(s) around the world (just like a peacock attempting to impress a potential mate) trying to police the entire planet, condemning any & all the injustices & atrocities in which another country / nation has rendered, is rendering &, or will render against its own citizen(s), but just like the typical hypocritical country / nation, the USA willingly & conveniently overlook(s) all of the injustices & atrocities in which it has rendered, is rendering &, or will render against its own citizen(s).

Nonsensically, afterwards the hypocrite(s) of this USA country / nation sits back & (foolishly) wounder(s) exactly why (excluding Israel) no other nation(s) truly view(s) the United States of America as an ally & only desires its immediate destruction (i.e., excluding Israel) obvious just like a song that you hear for the first time & you hate it, if you continuously listen to that song "you-hate" you will begin to accept & like it... therefore, likewise if anyone hear(s) & tell(s) any lie(s) long enough anyone will automatically & actually start to believe the lie(s).... irrelevant to the overwhelming & well documented (impartial & unbiased) proof(s) &, or evidence(s) which is contrary.


  • "indivisible"
There is a surplus of well documented (past & present) proof / evidence that the USA is not indivisible, but is actually divisible (i.e., easily divided), just impartially &, or unbiasedly analyze the following: 1. How the USA obtain its current fifty (i.e., 50) states, 2. The American Civil War (in which is a oxymoron) & 3. The U.S. House of Representatives
(i.e., Democrats -vs- Republicans) in which is nothing more than a legalized gangland (i.e., Bloods -vs- Crips).


  • "with liberty and justice for all"
Now, to avoid tedious redundancy, the citizen(s) of the USA & the foreigner(s) are well aware of the fallacy within the above section of the "USA pledge".

Note: The above "USA pledge" was changed (i.e., rewritten) five times, from 1892 - the present.
 
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Impartially &, or unbiasedly speaking JBJoe, my secular & spiritual horizon(s) are well broaden. But, let's talk about "indoctrination"

Seeing as how that post has nothing to do with whether or not college educated individuals have sufficient mental capability to evaluate your claims, nor does it have anything to do with fusion, nor does it have anything to do with physical or life sciences... It's just a giant non-sequitur. You might try bringing it up in the politics forum or something.
 
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Greetings Zone

I was enjoying myself in Theology (Christians only) > General Theology > Origins Theology until the rules changed and I was no longer allowed to post anything of substance. There are a lot of nice people there; engineers, a geologist, and so on and not one physicist, no one who could even do kinetic energy calculations.

I got involved in the plate tectonics model which was very interesting.

Dr Walt Brown theorised that supercritical steam heated by tidal forces had ruptured the overlying rock, but I showed it would have taken way too long to lose the heat and condense the water vapour to result in the Noah Flood.

If the rock structure had been unstable and collapsed through soluble minerals dissolving for example, the water would have jetted up with the right amount of force to come raining down, producing the effect Noah experienced.

If you want to get involved in that model http://www.christianforums.com/t7282385-5/#post48635780 might be a good place to read from.

But last time I was there they were in dire need of someone with a good understanding of Physical Science who could handle calculations beyond High School level.
 
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