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The 'OT' and NT are all one book with the same author, God.
I remember when I believed that and thought that I understood the Bible. Each author of the Bible must be allowed to speak with his own voice. The perspective that youve just stated does not lead to a healthy understanding of the biblical text.
I remember when I believed that and thought that I understood the Bible. Each author of the Bible must be allowed to speak with his own voice. The perspective that youve just stated does not lead to a healthy understanding of the biblical text.
One author, many writers, is how best to explain it, I think.
Speaking only for myself here...I look to Torah *Genesis through Deuteronomy* as the words from YHWH's mouth given to Moses, a great prophet.
I agree, all material subsequent must agree with the Torah and Neviim (cf Isa 8:20).All the rest of the books (Biblical, Apocryphal, Pseudepigraphical, Talmud, any and all other spiritual reference books) should be held to the standard of Torah, studied, if one wishes, and compared and cross-referenced, etc. Study from historical, geographical, political, archaeological, linguistic (etc.) standpoints, because studying the "where" and "who's who" is helpful.
This sounds like a Trinitarian argument ("person" verses "being")! Surely you know that "writer" and "author" is the very same thing!
The author (in this case Yeshua) inspired man to put pen to paper and write the words we now have. The author is, therefore, in this particular situation, not the actual writer who put pen to paper.
So, let's say that Paul wanted to write a letter. We are aware that he had bad eyes and couldn't write very clearly. Rather than sitting down at a table and writing out the letter, he held the ideas in his mind and formulated them into arguments. Then, he employed someone else (a professional scribe or a companion of his missionary work) who wrote down his words as he said them. In this instance, Paul was the author even though he didn't write the words himself. The person who wrote the letter would be called a "scribe" or a "stenographer," but he would not be called the "writer." Do you see the distinction?
It seems that you're saying that the ideas and expressions are those of God, but the people who put them into writing are the prophets, etc., making them the scribes or stenographers of God's expression.
Is this what you're saying?
It is not often a good idea to compare what G_d does with how human beings work - it fails in this case. Paul, the thinker, employed people to write the words as he spoke them - the job of a scribe. The people wrote what G_d inspired them to understand as being from him, with the exception of Moses to whom he spoke face to face; the words were not dictated to humans in the same way Paul dictated them to a hired scribe. A scribe responds only to words heard externally.
The unblemished Lamb of G-D was inspected by both Herod and Pontus Pilot. Even Pilot washed his hands of the matter having tried to dissuade the Pharisees. Yet, He was slain on Passover (Yom Revi'I, Wednesday) and resurrected on Shabbat (Saturday). Sunday also known as the eighth day would truly become the beginning of a new covenant that built upon the previous covenant . "But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises." Hebrews 8:6 (CJB)For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; *whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15 (NASB)
It is not often a good idea to compare what G_d does with how human beings work - it fails in this case. Paul, the thinker, employed people to write the words as he spoke them - the job of a scribe. The people wrote what G_d inspired them to understand as being from him, with the exception of Moses to whom he spoke face to face; the words were not dictated to humans in the same way Paul dictated them to a hired scribe. A scribe responds only to words heard externally.
The L-RD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the L-RD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts
Ok folks, thank you, but it is clear that the OT and NT cannot be reconciled according to what I have read here.
?? you can not reconcile the God you know and the one in scripture?? As they are one and the same... what part of scripture can you not reconcile..; preconceived notions that Paul is scripture and all the rest is out of whack??Ok folks, thank you, but it is clear that the OT and NT cannot be reconciled according to what I have read here.
Matthew 5:17-19
(Complete Jewish Bible including Old and New Testaments)
17 "Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete.
18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah -- not until everything that must happen has happened.
19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."
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