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Nothing but a "desolate Earth" left after the appearing of Christ

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2 Thess. 1:6-12 that you posted does not say ONE SINGLE word about a "desolate" earth.

What is in view is the judgment of God!


You said........
"The lost are those who:
1. obey not the gospel
2. Know not God"

WOW! That is a news flash!

With all the lost destroyed (Rev 19, 2 Thess 1) and all the saints raptured to heaven as we see in 1 Thess 4:13-18 --- it leaves only the Jer 4 "desolate Earth"

Call it a "news flash" if you will - but that is how it works out.
 
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I am partial to the practice of believing what the Bible says -- I do admit that.

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Jer 4 does not say "no wicked man -- just saints remained" -- rather it says --
25 I looked, and behold, there was no human,

Jer 4: NKJV
I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void;
And the heavens, they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled,
And all the hills moved back and forth.
25 I beheld, and indeed there was no man,
And all the birds of the heavens had fled.
26 I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were broken down
At the presence of the Lord,
By His fierce anger.

Jer 4:25 NASB
25 I looked, and behold, there was no human,
And all the birds of the sky had fled.



Its called ... read the Bible... believe the Bible.

I am totally committed to what the Bible says Bob.

I am also committed to its correct and proper teaching!

That the prophecy here refers to the Babylonians is a certainty, as proved by the Scriptures in Jere. 4:7.

"A lion has gone up from his thicket, and a destroyer of nations ..." (Jeremiah 4:7 .........
"A lion has gone up from his thicket, And a destroyer of nations has set out; He has gone out from his place To make your land a waste. Your cities will be ruins Without inhabitant."

This lion was no ordinary beast, but a destroyer of nations. While true enough that a lion "could represent either Assyria or Babylon," the metaphor could have applied only to Babylon.

Jeremiah 4 is about the Babylonian invasion of 597 BC.
 
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With all the lost destroyed (Rev 19, 2 Thess 1) and all the saints raptured to heaven as we see in 1 Thess 4:13-18 --- it leaves only the Jer 4 "desolate Earth"

Call it a "news flash" if you will - but that is how it works out.

No it is not. It is how YOU think. It is NOT what the Scriptures say.

There will be many, many people who accept Christ during the Tribulation and live through it and go into the 1000 year rule of Christ.
 
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Anyone who has read the OT texts that point to future events already knows that context changes mid-chapter as we see in Is 14 and Ezek 28

Isaiah 14 speaks to TWO things at the same time... one is Lucifer and the other a local heathen king.

Is 14 NKJV:
Fall of the King of Babylon
3 It shall come to pass in the day the Lord gives you rest from your sorrow, and from your fear and the hard bondage in which you were made to serve, 4 that you will take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say:

“How the oppressor has ceased,
The golden city ceased!
5 The Lord has broken the staff of the wicked,
The scepter of the rulers;
6 He who struck the people in wrath with a continual stroke,
He who ruled the nations in anger,
Is persecuted and no one hinders.
7 The whole earth is at rest and quiet;
They break forth into singing.
8 Indeed the cypress trees rejoice over you,
And the cedars of Lebanon,
Saying, ‘Since you were cut down,
No woodsman has come up against us.’

9 “Hell from beneath is excited about you,
To meet you at your coming;
It stirs up the dead for you,
All the chief ones of the earth;
It has raised up from their thrones
All the kings of the nations.
10 They all shall speak and say to you:
‘Have you also become as weak as we?
Have you become like us?
11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
And the sound of your stringed instruments;
The maggot is spread under you,
And worms cover you.’

The Fall of Lucifer
12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.

16 “Those who see you will gaze at you,
And consider you, saying:
Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17 Who made the world as a wilderness
And destroyed its cities,


EVEN the Bible translators "notice" just when you appear to claim that only Seventh-day Adventists would know about such things.

Isaiah 13:19-22 is correctly understood as Isaish predicting the fall of BABYLON and that it will never be rebuilt. It, BABYLON will remain DESOLATE and shal never be inhabited again.

The referrance to "wild beasts" is taken to be literally as demonic forces.

So then chapter 14:1-12 is a song of trimph over Babylon. The nation that was to one day take Judan into captivity will one day be severely judged by God.

Then in 14:12 we now see the power behind Babylon/ Isiah uses the fall of Satan to illustrate the fall of the king of Babylon.
 
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