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Notes on John 1:1
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I presume the emphasis is on Christ as "logos". Since John was apparently writing in Greek, he would have been familiar with aspects of Greek philosophy and beliefs.
Therefore he would have used a term which was familiar to his readers.
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Earlier philosophical and mystic traditions also had the concept (Indian, Egyptian and Persian) but it was the Greek philosphers who gave it the most thought.
John identified Christ as the Logos, which the Stoics " .... philosophers who followed the teachings of the thinker Zeno of Citium (4th–3rd century BCE), defined the logos as an active rational and spiritual principle that permeated all reality."
Therefore he would have used a term which was familiar to his readers.
Logos | Definition, History, & Facts | Britannica
Logos, in Greek philosophy and early Christian theology, the divine reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning. The concept became significant in Christian writings and doctrines as a vehicle for conceiving the role of Jesus Christ as the active principle of God in...
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Earlier philosophical and mystic traditions also had the concept (Indian, Egyptian and Persian) but it was the Greek philosphers who gave it the most thought.
John identified Christ as the Logos, which the Stoics " .... philosophers who followed the teachings of the thinker Zeno of Citium (4th–3rd century BCE), defined the logos as an active rational and spiritual principle that permeated all reality."
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I have another photo to share.I presume the emphasis is on Christ as "logos". Since John was apparently writing in Greek, he would have been familiar with aspects of Greek philosophy and beliefs.
Therefore he would have used a term which was familiar to his readers.
Logos | Definition, History, & Facts | Britannica
Logos, in Greek philosophy and early Christian theology, the divine reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning. The concept became significant in Christian writings and doctrines as a vehicle for conceiving the role of Jesus Christ as the active principle of God in...
Earlier philosophical and mystic traditions also had the concept (Indian, Egyptian and Persian) but it was the Greek philosphers who gave it the most thought.
John identified Christ as the Logos, which the Stoics " .... philosophers who followed the teachings of the thinker Zeno of Citium (4th–3rd century BCE), defined the logos as an active rational and spiritual principle that permeated all reality."
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I can think of a few more "outrageous" verses for a mere man to make -
"Before Abraham was, I am".
"I and the Father are one".
"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, I sent you the wise men and the prophets".
"You will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with great power and glory".
"No one goes to the Father but by me".
"I will send you the Holy Spirit".
As CS Lewis wrote a man who went around saying the things Christ said was a lunatic, a demon or who He claimed to be. He did not give us the leeway to call him a wise man and teacher - He did not intend to (or words to that effect).
"Before Abraham was, I am".
"I and the Father are one".
"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, I sent you the wise men and the prophets".
"You will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with great power and glory".
"No one goes to the Father but by me".
"I will send you the Holy Spirit".
As CS Lewis wrote a man who went around saying the things Christ said was a lunatic, a demon or who He claimed to be. He did not give us the leeway to call him a wise man and teacher - He did not intend to (or words to that effect).
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