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[paul becke]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

 

[sesquiterpene]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

And what percentage of the worlds scientists do you think that represents?

...and how many thousand years will it take until the majority of scientists are "dissenters"?

 

[Speedwell]

And what percentage of the worlds scientists do you think that represents?

...and how many thousand years will it take until the majority of scientists are "dissenters"?

Probably quite a few, as the Discovery Institute has been thoroughly outed as a fascist front organization which concocted ID as a Trojan Horse to sneak its radical Calvinist theology into the public schools.

 

[HitchSlap]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

Lol... "Discovery Institute." wheeeeeeeeeee.....

In other news, over 1,400 scientists named Steve accept ToE.

List of Steves

 

[GlabrousDory4]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

Are YOU going to be the first person among us to give up all the benefits to medicine and biology that are underlain by evolutionary thought?

Good luck with that!

Oh and one other question: are you a biologist or some other scientist such that YOU know what is or isn't science?

(I'm honestly curious...because about 99.9999999999% of the time I hear people decry evolution as "not even science" it comes from someone who last darkened a lab doorway back in high school science class.)

 

[sfs]

Have you seen this ?

That it's taken them 18 years to get less than 0.1% of the world's scientists to agree to an ambiguously worded statement about evolution? No. Is there any reason we should care?

Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon.

Where's the evidence that, you know, skepticism about evolution is actually growing?

It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long.

To summarize: you've presented no evidence for a claim about a subject you don't know anything about. Again, why is this interesting?

 

[pitabread]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

*sigh*

Not this stupid claim again...

Project Steve already refuted the misguided notion about a scientific revolt against the science of evolution. This is just lame DI propaganda. It speaks to the desperation of IDists/creationists.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Did you post this on Reddit already:

Scientists around the world are doubting Darwin : Creation

Whether that was you or not I'll give my same response:

The Consensus(TM) shrugs and says, "Then, publish and change the consensus*."

Also, Project Steve.

*Evidentiary Restrictions Apply. Not Sold in Popular Bookstores. Void Where Prohibited.

 

[sesquiterpene]

That it's taken them 18 years to get less than 0.1% of the world's scientists to agree to an ambiguously worded statement about evolution?

1000/18 = 55.6 per year
per the NSF there were over 12,000 new PhDs granted in the life sciences alone in 2017 - and this is only the US. Looks like Intelligent Design is fading rapidly.
By any calculation the Discovery Institute is a miserable failure

 

[essentialsaltes]

Have you seen this ?

"Discovery Institute first published its Scientific Dissent from Darwinism list in in The New York Review of Books in 2001"

So yes. I've seen it. Nearly 20 years later and evolution is not one iota weaker.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

Very first quote I see on that link:

Douglas Axe, from the "Biologic Institute".

Yes, that sounds impressive right? I mean, it has "biologic" in its name and it's an institute.
Sounds very sciency. Surely these are professional scientists that know what they are talking about, right?


Let's review...
The guy is a molecular biologist, so we're off to a good start.

How about his professional publications?
Turns out, he authored a few papers that got published in some lower tier, yet genuine, journals. None of which made much fuzz. None of which even hinted at anything arguing against evolution. None of which talks about ID in any way.

He's published extensively in the "journal" BIO-complexity. Who's behind that? The "biologic institute". Who's behind that? The Discovery Institute. OEPS!

Ow and this Douglass is actually also the "director" of that "journal".
So his extensive "publications" were approved by none other them himself.

In other words, this is again just the same circle of creationist friends who publish their religious papers in their own operated non-peer reviewed, non-scientific "journals" ('magazines' is a better term) and then agree with one another.


Yeeeeey.

 

[paul becke]

"Discovery Institute first published its Scientific Dissent from Darwinism list in in The New York Review of Books in 2001"

So yes. I've seen it. Nearly 20 years later and evolution is not one iota weaker.

Read post #9 of Bornagain77 at this link :

Science Mag’s hit on Michael Behe’s new book Darwin Devolves avoids his main point

 

[paul becke]

Are YOU going to be the first person among us to give up all the benefits to medicine and biology that are underlain by evolutionary thought?

Good luck with that!

Oh and one other question: are you a biologist or some other scientist such that YOU know what is or isn't science?

(I'm honestly curious...because about 99.9999999999% of the time I hear people decry evolution as "not even science" it comes from someone who last darkened a lab doorway back in high school science class.)

Read post #9 of Bornagain77 at the link, below, and weep for your incorrigible folly (and your hair-cut, while you're about it...):

Science Mag’s hit on Michael Behe’s new book Darwin Devolves avoids his main point

 

[Belk]

Have you seen this ? Let it be 'all over bar the shouting' very soon. It has been known for a long time now that Evolution is not even science. It's ludicrous that it has taken so long. The power of money in this fallen world.

Nota Bene: Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as 1,000+ Scientists Share Their Doubts

You should hold your breath waiting for this to become a big deal.

 

[sfs]

Read post #9 of Bornagain77 at this link :

Science Mag’s hit on Michael Behe’s new book Darwin Devolves avoids his main point

I read it. Is there something in it you wish to discuss?

 

[paul becke]

Lol... "Discovery Institute." wheeeeeeeeeee.....

In other news, over 1,400 scientists named Steve accept ToE.

List of Steves

Science is known to be a field in which the bright ones are relatively few, the rest, 'hewers of wood and drawers of water'. Nothing wrong with that ; most, no doubt have families to support (and do a far better job than I ever did), while many would actually have a superior spiritual intelligence than some of their more worldly-inclined 'betters'. Mengele had a degree in anthropology, as well as his doctorate, yet was as thick as two short planks, wasn't he ? And crazy as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking-chairs.

 

[paul becke]

I read it. Is there something in it you wish to discuss?

Just point out to you the folly of the .. well, not even 'theory' of 'evamalution', when a billion years produces the nothing but stasis ; and as for Popper's criteria .... Pass. Perhaps this is not the thread for you, if you learnt nothing from that post. Nothing to be ashamed of ; we all have different cognitive levels and skills.

 

[paul becke]

And what percentage of the worlds scientists do you think that represents?

...and how many thousand years will it take until the majority of scientists are "dissenters"?

There are scientists and 'drudges'. You would be impressed by the latter. Nice, classical, Lego, mechanistic science would be your 'cup of tea', wouldn't it. Disappointing from an agnostic. But it takes all types.

 

[HitchSlap]

Science is known to be a field in which the bright ones are relatively few, the rest, 'hewers of wood and drawers of water'. Nothing wrong with that ; most, no doubt have families to support (and do a far better job than I ever did), while many would actually have a superior spiritual intelligence than some of their more worldly-inclined 'betters'. Mengele had a degree in anthropology, as well as his doctorate, yet was as thick as two short planks, wasn't he ? And crazy as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking-chairs.

I have no idea what this even means.

The "discovery institute" is nothing more than an evangelical creationist propaganda machine. Never have they contributed anything to the body of science. They could disappear tomorrow and nobody would notice.

 

[paul becke]

Very first quote I see on that link:

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Douglas Axe, from the "Biologic Institute".

Yes, that sounds impressive right? I mean, it has "biologic" in its name and it's an institute.
Sounds very sciency. Surely these are professional scientists that know what they are talking about, right?


Let's review...
The guy is a molecular biologist, so we're off to a good start.

How about his professional publications?
Turns out, he authored a few papers that got published in some lower tier, yet genuine, journals. None of which made much fuzz. None of which even hinted at anything arguing against evolution. None of which talks about ID in any way.

He's published extensively in the "journal" BIO-complexity. Who's behind that? The "biologic institute". Who's behind that? The Discovery Institute. OEPS!

Ow and this Douglass is actually also the "director" of that "journal".
So his extensive "publications" were approved by none other them himself.

In other words, this is again just the same circle of creationist friends who publish their religious papers in their own operated non-peer reviewed, non-scientific "journals" ('magazines' is a better term) and then agree with one another.


Yeeeeey.

Anything but deal with the facts, referred to, eh ? So, what's new ? tee hee tither tither. Do you really think the opinion of an agnostic, evidently, of an atheist persuasion, on the subject of the Discovery Institute, is worth squat ? Go back to sleep, there's a good chap.