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"There is some debate over whether or not the Santa story is a lie. To me, it is. To me, it feels like a lie. It feels dishonest. There are plenty of fantastic parents who choose to do Santa, and they do not feel like they are lying. That is a good choice for their family.

My choice for my family is not inherently judgmental of your choice. I can feel that something is wrong for my family, without also feeling that it is wrong for your family. You know yourself and your children. The issue is worth exploring, though. If we tell our children not to lie to us, if we expect and desire honesty from everyone in our lives, why is it acceptable for us to lie to our children?"
 
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someone asked my teen recently "what's your BIG ASK for Christmas?"
I quickly said "our child has never asked for anything for Christmas."

I attribute this to the fact we never "did Santa"
so there was never writing a list for Santa

people think our child missed out

instead our teen still has imagination & creativity which many have lost by her age
also, our teen is not materialistic at all
 
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"There is some debate over whether or not the Santa story is a lie. To me, it is. To me, it feels like a lie. It feels dishonest. There are plenty of fantastic parents who choose to do Santa, and they do not feel like they are lying. That is a good choice for their family.

My choice for my family is not inherently judgmental of your choice. I can feel that something is wrong for my family, without also feeling that it is wrong for your family. You know yourself and your children. The issue is worth exploring, though. If we tell our children not to lie to us, if we expect and desire honesty from everyone in our lives, why is it acceptable for us to lie to our children?"

Oh dear! I feel you are missing a lot of fun with your children! Children are quite clever, I remember the fun... my children soon picked up that it was all a bit of fun. No 'lies' ... you are being far too serious.

The real meaning of Christmas is the coming into the world of the Saviour of the world. The children knew the real meaning of Christmas and that Santa was just for fun. Enjoy!
 
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It's a lie that keeps on growing...My kids did not have Santa, Easter bunny, or tooth fairy for the very reason you stipulate.....The only disappointed ones were the grandparents.
 
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"There is some debate over whether or not the Santa story is a lie. To me, it is. To me, it feels like a lie. It feels dishonest. There are plenty of fantastic parents who choose to do Santa, and they do not feel like they are lying. That is a good choice for their family.

My choice for my family is not inherently judgmental of your choice. I can feel that something is wrong for my family, without also feeling that it is wrong for your family. You know yourself and your children. The issue is worth exploring, though. If we tell our children not to lie to us, if we expect and desire honesty from everyone in our lives, why is it acceptable for us to lie to our children?"

The Lie is that 'good' kids get rewarded.

This extends to God rewards 'good people'.

There was then no need for Jesus to come and die on a cross.

Santa reinforces a false gospel.
 
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"There is some debate over whether or not the Santa story is a lie. To me, it is. To me, it feels like a lie. It feels dishonest. There are plenty of fantastic parents who choose to do Santa, and they do not feel like they are lying. That is a good choice for their family.

My choice for my family is not inherently judgmental of your choice. I can feel that something is wrong for my family, without also feeling that it is wrong for your family. You know yourself and your children. The issue is worth exploring, though. If we tell our children not to lie to us, if we expect and desire honesty from everyone in our lives, why is it acceptable for us to lie to our children?"
Every child eventually has to learn that the world isn't always a carefree and friendly place. That it can sometimes be cold and inhospitable. But they should at least have somewhere in their heart the memory of when they thought it was. A time when they could believe in fairy tales. When the seemingly miraculous was actually possible. Yes it's naive, but it's part of the innocence of childhood, and perhaps the world would be a better place if we all carried a bit more of it with us. If we all believed just a little bit more, that Santa and Prince Charming really can come true.

It's about giving your child something that the world is all too quickly going to take away...innocence.
 
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There was no recognition of santa, the easter bunny, or tooth fairy in our home. Myth has a place but it shouldn’t be conflated with truth. Gifts were given along with lessons on fat and lean to develop contentment and adaptability.

~bella
 
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When I hear people say that they aren't going to lie to their children by telling them about Santa, I cannot avoid wondering if they also tell the same small child the whole truth when he or she first asks where babies come from, or asks when Grandpa is coming home following a death in the family.
 
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And Samuel said, “Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams.

If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God.

~bella
 
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I did the whole truth on babies summer before 3rd grade
no questions came up before
hearing the whole truth, she does NOT want to give birth!
Isn't that close to the age at which children who were told the Santa story earlier are being told by their parents that there actually isn't a Santa??

grandpas both died in 2020 when she was a teen
everyone in family lives to be really, really old!

These examples don't deal at all with the situation you put to us in your original post, mama.
 
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I cannot avoid wondering if they also tell the same small child the whole truth when he or she first asks where babies come from, or asks when Grandpa is coming home following a death in the family.

People lived off the land long ago. Life and death were evident. Animals were born and slaughtered. Humans entered and departed. It wasn’t hidden.

~bella
 
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I will continue to not understand why this gets so much play on a Christian website every year around western Christmas when we have the Christian origins of so many of our secular(ized) Christmas traditions in the western world readily available to us, so there is no need to ask "Is Santa Claus real? Should I tell my children it's all a lie?", etc.. Just look up the life story and veneration of St. Nicholas of Myra, the fourth-century bishop who is a real person who is widely venerated in traditional Christianity. It was through the process of his life story and acts being disseminated outside of Asia Minor to places further west that the modern 'Santa' eventually came to be.

So ditch the rotund Coca Cola-shilling home invader if you wish, but for God's sake, do not forget or choose not to avail yourself of the knowledge of the holy wonderworker St. Nicholas, whose life and deeds are a testament to the glory and power of God at work in His creation through the hands of His servants. Your children (and all people) deserve to know the truth.
 
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Every child eventually has to learn that the world isn't always a carefree and friendly place. That it can sometimes be cold and inhospitable. But they should at least have somewhere in their heart the memory of when they thought it was. A time when they could believe in fairy tales. When the seemingly miraculous was actually possible. Yes it's naive, but it's part of the innocence of childhood, and perhaps the world would be a better place if we all carried a bit more of it with us. If we all believed just a little bit more, that Santa and Prince Charming really can come true.

It's about giving your child something that the world is all too quickly going to take away...innocence.

My favorite was dressing up as a pirate.
 
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The Lie is that 'good' kids get rewarded.

This extends to God rewards 'good people'.
This is for children, in similar fashion to Jesus saying,
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)
Naughty or nice is taught by whom? Your parents.
The Lie is that 'good' kids get rewarded.here was then no need for Jesus to come and die on a cross.

Santa reinforces a false gospel.
It isn't about being saved. It's about young children and knowing naughty or nice from their parents. At what age do children become accountable in their own right? By that time they know Santa is not real. It was all in fun, with a moral lesson to be nice as their parents taught them. The first commandment with promise (reward).
 
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Krampus - Wikipedia

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Good cop, bad cop...
 
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Just about everything is a lie in the age of satan. You want truth go to The Bible.​
And Children know well the difference between a lie, and make believe. I remember my older siblings telling me the Easter bunny was not real. To me the disappointment was more along the lines of ,,,enjoying having everyone in on a game of Let's pretend, and no longer playing pretend. But children naturally know what pretending is...it is play to them.
 
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When I hear people say that they aren't going to lie to their children by telling them about Santa, I cannot avoid wondering if they also tell the same small child the whole truth when he or she first asks where babies come from, or asks when Grandpa is coming home following a death in the family.

We all know where babies come from,

the stork brings them.
 
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I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.

What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

The oneness he addresses is in Christ. Not man made beliefs or practices.

~bella
 
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