Nor sit in the seat of scoffers.

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Some are inclined to pick a religious leader, such as Pope Francis, and dig diligently for dirt with which to besmirch them. Some are inclined to mock principled decisions made by them. Some count them as their enemies and their work as wicked and so they want nothing more than to find a scandal and to expose them using it. A few mock them with words like "heretic" and "hypocrite". God has something to say about this approach to religion.

Blessed is the man who​
walks not in the counsel of the wicked,​
nor stands in the way of sinners,​
nor sits in the seat of scoffers;​
but his delight is in the law of the LORD,​
and on his law he meditates day and night.​
He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season,​
and its leaf does not wither.​
In all that he does, he prospers.​
The wicked are not so,​
but are like chaff that the wind drives away.​
Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgement,​
nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;​
for the LORD knows the way of the righteous,​
but the way of the wicked will perish.​
[Psa 1:1-6]


Albert Barnes says:
Nor sitteth - This implies still greater deliberation and determination of character than either of the other words employed. The man referred to here does not casually and accidentally walk along with them, nor put himself in their way by standing where they are ordinarily to be found; but he has become one of them by occupying a seat with them; thus deliberately associating with them. He has an established residence among the wicked; he is permanently one of their number.​
In the seat - The seat which the scornful usually occupy; the place where such men converse and sit together - as in a ball-room, or in a “club,” where wicked men hold their meetings, or where infidels and scoffers are accustomed to assemble.​
Of the scornful - לצים lētsiym. This word properly means those who mock, deride, scoff; those who treat virtue and religion with contempt and scorn. Pro 1:22; Pro 3:34; Pro 9:7-8; Pro 13:1; Pro 15:12, et saepe. It denotes a higher and more determined grade of wickedness than either of the other words employed, and refers to the consummation of a depraved character, the last stage of wickedness, when God and sacred things are treated with contempt and derision. There is hope of a man as long as he will treat virtue and religion with some degree of respect; there is little or none when he has reached the point in his own character in which virtue and piety are regarded only as fit subjects for ridicule and scorn. We have here, then, a beautiful double gradation or climax, in the nouns and verbs of this verse, indicating successive stages of character. There is, first, casual walking with the wicked, or accidentally falling into their company; there is then a more deliberate inclination for their society, indicated by a voluntary putting of oneself in places where they usually congregate, and standing to wait for them; and then there is a deliberate and settled purpose of associating with them, or of becoming permanently one of them, by regularly sitting among them.​
So also it is in regard to the persons with whom they associate. They are, first, irreligious men in general; then, those who have so far advanced in depravity as to disregard known duty, and to violate known obligations; and then, those who become confirmed in infidelity, and who openly mock at virtue, and scoff at the claims of religion. It is unnecessary to say that, in both these respects, this is an accurate description of what actually occurs in the world. He who casually and accidentally walks with the wicked, listening to their counsel, will soon learn to place himself in their way, and to wait for them, desiring their society, and will ultimately be likely to be feared identified with open scoffers; and he who indulges in one form of depravity, or in the neglect of religion in any way, will, unless restrained and converted, be likely to run through every grade of wickedness, until he becomes a confirmed scoffer at all religion. The sentiment in this verse is, that the man who is truly blessed is a man who does none of these things. His associations and preferences are found elsewhere, as is stated in the next verse.​
It is worth while taking some care about what seat you choose to sit in.
 

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Some are inclined to pick a religious leader, such as Pope Francis, and dig diligently for dirt with which to besmirch them.
Pope Francis dug his own dirt by admitting gay marriage. Unless you think he is beyond scrutiny and not subject to the Law of Christ, he has himself turned against his own office. And many Catholics are rightly challenging this. They are not "digging dirt," but are rightly defending the Scriptures.

I would be careful not to defend the undefendable. That will make you "stand in the way with sinners."
 
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Pope Francis dug his own dirt by admitting gay marriage. Unless you think he is beyond scrutiny and not subject to the Law of Christ, he has himself turned against his own office. And many Catholics are rightly challenging this. They are not "digging dirt," but are rightly defending the Scriptures.

I would be careful not to defend the undefendable. That will make you "stand in the way with sinners."
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If only you had read what he actually said
I just read an article about what he was saying in the last hour. Apparently the Inquisition is no longer condemning heresy? And the Pope wishes to apply one standard to Africans and another to other parts of the world. Relativism?

I don't care if the Pope suggests various acts of sodomy are sinful. To bless gay marriages is itself sinful, and the Pope needs to be publicly rebuked. He needs to be denied the Eucharist. But surely he needs to be dismissed from his office?
 
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I just read an article about what he was saying in the last hour. Apparently the Inquisition is no longer condemning heresy? And the Pope wishes to apply one standard to Africans and another to other parts of the world. Relativism?

I don't care if the Pope suggests various acts of sodomy are sinful. To bless gay marriages is itself sinful, and the Pope needs to be publicly rebuked. He needs to be denied the Eucharist. But surely he needs to be dismissed from his office?
You could try reading the two page document he produced. Articles about it are just journalists' spins on it. go to the source and see for yourself.

 
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Just thinking , do you agree or disagree with Gay Marriage as NOT all RC seem to agree ?

Can give your views >>

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It's civil marriage and, as such it is a civil matter, for the civil government to decide.

A sacramental marriage is a matter for the church to decide. And the Catholic Church has decided that sacramental marriage is between a man and a woman..
 
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Some are inclined to pick a religious leader, such as Pope Francis, and dig diligently for dirt with which to besmirch them. Some are inclined to mock principled decisions made by them. Some count them as their enemies and their work as wicked and so they want nothing more than to find a scandal and to expose them using it. A few mock them with words like "heretic" and "hypocrite". God has something to say about this approach to religion.

Blessed is the man who​
walks not in the counsel of the wicked,​
nor stands in the way of sinners,​
nor sits in the seat of scoffers;​
but his delight is in the law of the LORD,​
and on his law he meditates day and night.​
He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season,​
and its leaf does not wither.​
In all that he does, he prospers.​
The wicked are not so,​
but are like chaff that the wind drives away.​
Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgement,​
nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;​
for the LORD knows the way of the righteous,​
but the way of the wicked will perish.​
[Psa 1:1-6]


Albert Barnes says:
Nor sitteth - This implies still greater deliberation and determination of character than either of the other words employed. The man referred to here does not casually and accidentally walk along with them, nor put himself in their way by standing where they are ordinarily to be found; but he has become one of them by occupying a seat with them; thus deliberately associating with them. He has an established residence among the wicked; he is permanently one of their number.​
In the seat - The seat which the scornful usually occupy; the place where such men converse and sit together - as in a ball-room, or in a “club,” where wicked men hold their meetings, or where infidels and scoffers are accustomed to assemble.​
Of the scornful - לצים lētsiym. This word properly means those who mock, deride, scoff; those who treat virtue and religion with contempt and scorn. Pro 1:22; Pro 3:34; Pro 9:7-8; Pro 13:1; Pro 15:12, et saepe. It denotes a higher and more determined grade of wickedness than either of the other words employed, and refers to the consummation of a depraved character, the last stage of wickedness, when God and sacred things are treated with contempt and derision. There is hope of a man as long as he will treat virtue and religion with some degree of respect; there is little or none when he has reached the point in his own character in which virtue and piety are regarded only as fit subjects for ridicule and scorn. We have here, then, a beautiful double gradation or climax, in the nouns and verbs of this verse, indicating successive stages of character. There is, first, casual walking with the wicked, or accidentally falling into their company; there is then a more deliberate inclination for their society, indicated by a voluntary putting of oneself in places where they usually congregate, and standing to wait for them; and then there is a deliberate and settled purpose of associating with them, or of becoming permanently one of them, by regularly sitting among them.​
So also it is in regard to the persons with whom they associate. They are, first, irreligious men in general; then, those who have so far advanced in depravity as to disregard known duty, and to violate known obligations; and then, those who become confirmed in infidelity, and who openly mock at virtue, and scoff at the claims of religion. It is unnecessary to say that, in both these respects, this is an accurate description of what actually occurs in the world. He who casually and accidentally walks with the wicked, listening to their counsel, will soon learn to place himself in their way, and to wait for them, desiring their society, and will ultimately be likely to be feared identified with open scoffers; and he who indulges in one form of depravity, or in the neglect of religion in any way, will, unless restrained and converted, be likely to run through every grade of wickedness, until he becomes a confirmed scoffer at all religion. The sentiment in this verse is, that the man who is truly blessed is a man who does none of these things. His associations and preferences are found elsewhere, as is stated in the next verse.​
It is worth while taking some care about what seat you choose to sit in.
We can't believe in the truth of Psalms 1:1-2 while not allowing it to shape our view of Torah observance.
 
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