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Non-RC views of election of Pope and smoke

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I find it facinating, but I wish I could apply for a permit to Vatican country. Must get my black suit ready just in case I get an offer
 
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I find it facinating, but I wish I could apply for a permit to Vatican country. Must get my black suit ready just in case I get an offer

I had read somewhere that the producers of this movie were not granted permission to use the Vatican.
Kewl movie!

Catholic League: Vaticans Position on 'Angels and Demons' - International - Catholic Online

“The Vatican has apparently decided on a three track strategy to deal with ‘Angels & Demons’: ban Ron Howard from filming on its grounds; low ball any negative comments before the movie debuts; and slam it for its stereotypical portrayals while conceding its cinematic value.

“Howard was denied access to the Vatican because of his previous exploitation of the Catholic Church in ‘The Da Vinci Code.’


YouTube - Angels & Demons - Official Trailer
 
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Sounds like a plan
 
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
When was the custom/tradition of sending smoke up a chimney first introduced in Roman Catholicism [it is afterall your Denomination's custom correct?]
I am not a teacher, sorry

Pink Floyd -- The Wall [[ Official Video ]] - YouTube
 
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Quite plainly, since we see the pope as an unnecessary and dangerous position, both doctrinally and practically, the view is that they should return to the original view of him being first in respect, but not in power.
 
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Quite plainly, since we see the pope as an unnecessary and dangerous position, both doctrinally and practically, the view is that they should return to the original view of him being first in respect, but not in power.
I agree with that


http://www.christianforums.com/t5805969-86/#post37210170
What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope

 
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Wouldn't you think that by now, the RC mode of this type of election is a bit outdated?

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Originally Posted by razeontherock

Don't forget the point about Jesus never having smoked
I think that guy created a CF meme
Wonder if any of the Apostles smoked.........


Rev 19:3
and a second time they said, `Alleluia!'
and Her smoke doth come up -- to the ages of the ages!

Rev 14:11
and the smoke of their torment doth go up to ages of ages; and they have no rest day and night,




 
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Wonder if any of the Apostles smoked.........

Another thread resurrection?

Or is this one a zombie thread?

Anyway, the smoke colour (white-ish Vs grey/black-ish) is not from ancient times.

It was adopted some time in the past few centuries I think.

I'll check it up

Edit: I found some information on conclaves ... here it is:
1274 AD The Constitution Ubi periculum of the 3rd Ecumenical Council of Lyon, under Gregory X, establishes norms for the death and election of a Pope. It decrees the cloistering of the Cardinals and the secrecy of the Conclave behind a double lock. The Marshal of the Conclave holds the outside key, the Camerlengo the inside key. If an election does not result in three days, the Cardinals are to be have only bread, water and wine.

Second Edit: I found some more...
769 AD Stephen III (IV) sought to restrict the electors of the Pope. Acting through a Roman Synod it was decreed that only cardinal priests and cardinal deacons could be papal electors. At this time in history the cardinals actually held the offices which today are only titular. Thus, the priests and deacons in question were the actual pastors of principal Roman churches and deacons who administered Roman districts. The role of the laity and nobility was restricted to confirming the election.

Third edit: Even earlier signs of election and the emperor seeking to control the elections ...
420 AD Boniface I (418-22) obtains the agreement of Emperor Honorius that in a disputed election (such as his was), both electees would be rejected. The civil authorities would be obliged to recognize a unanimous electee. The interference of Emperor Honorius in the election of Pope Boniface was the first in Church history, but not the last. Likewise, this agreement would not be the last attempt to ensure the freedom of the election and the tranquillity of the passing of papal authority.

Fourth edit: Before 336 AD things seem to be a bit unclear, a little approximate in date and who elected the popes is not entirely clear ...
336 AD Pope Mark establishes the Bishop of Ostia as the principal consecrator of the newly elected Pope. At this time in history the popes typically came from among the priests and deacons of Rome, and thus had to be consecrated a bishop in order to assume office.
 
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This is weird, mon. What in the world are they sending up black smoke for, and what are they burning? :o
 
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