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Do a re-read to what you replied to.

Science has become an idol. Many have bowed down and made it their Lord. For them it is their guiding source for truth. It is what they are led by.

Meanwhile miracles (what God does to the earth) have happened since the Beginning of Creation.

Miracles are not natural processes or events, rather they are a display of Power that supercedes the natural.

People who solely turn to science for answers about this Creation acquire only natural knowledge. They become void of Knowledge and Power from Above, and often try to explain the history of God's miracles, as presented in the Bible, through natural realm processes and principles. Science becomes an idol in their heart, it's what leads and guides them to state what is truth and how things are.

A glimpse of Higher Life by firsthand receiving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, however, changes how people can "know", and changes the price tags on the things people seek, obtain, and know. Big time change. And big time realization of what has extreme value. Up, above, and beyond what they have ever possessed. The value of the new gain is astronomical.



Change in price tags are His doing through the Holy Spirit. And those who wake up to Him working within obtain astronomical gain - in comparison to what science can bring into ones possesion.

Requiring everything one encounters to be scientifically proven is a false filter and foundation. It is an idolatrous way of thinking that eventually leads one to Spiritual Poverty.





Poverty of what is Above is what most Earthly-minded scientists possess. Void of the Life and Knowledge the Holy Spirit brings. What is flesh cannot produce or derive what is Spirit and of substance Spiritual.

In the Last Days people will turn science into an idol - and dictate it is what all are to bow down to and follow - exalting Scientism and Humanism before the masses.
 
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In the Last Days people will turn science into an idol - and dictate it is what all are to bow down to and follow - exalting Scientism and Humanism before the masses.
So true!
 
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I wonder what influence Satan had in the writing of scripture that causes people to dismiss the facts of science and vilify scientist? What exposure do you really fear?
 
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I wonder what influence Satan had in the writing of scripture ...
None.

Holy men of God wrote the Scriptures.

Why do you think educatees question It?

"Holy" and "academia" have been wedged so far apart today, they look like a dichotomy to someone standing in the middle.

"Unholy" and "academia" are almost synonymous.
 
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“Holy men of God” put the Son of God through a trumped up trial based on “fake news” and had him put to death! Oh but gasp!!! The mere thought that these holy men could have ever written anything inaccurate in the “sacred scriptures”....
 
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“Holy men of God” put the Son of God through a trumped up trial based on “fake news” and had him put to death!
No, they didn't.
 
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We have Holy men, and so-called holy men, and Holy men are not what so-called holy men are...not by a long shot.

The way you worded that was that one who is supposed to be a Holy man is as likely as not to be a fake, and that is not a fact.

Anyway, the scriptures validity are far from dependent on men, holy or otherwise. Surely you know a God as powerful as ours is capable of getting his word to us, and in a form it is not fouled up with possibilities of whether it's true or not.

He is not a God of confusion, and I personally don't see how anyone could believe a wish washy/mistake ridden Bible. Nor would I believe one could claim it foulable, so they can interject their own "truths" into it, and not know they are changing the word of God.

We all are aware to the warnings on changing the word of God, and those warnings tell me the word is true in it's entirety, otherwise what a messed up situation it would be to try to sort out what we should believe and what we shouldn't. There would be so much confusion, many, if not everyone at one point or another, would put themselves in jeopardy.
 
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We have Holy men, and so-called holy men, and Holy men are not what so-called holy men are...not by a long shot.
Colter is a Urantian.
 
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Nice reply.

Leaning only on ones intellect is modern academia. Void of the Spirit is the higher education path taught. What a train wreck.
 
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Colter is a Urantian.
Seems pretty sternly bound to it.

Colter, have you been born from above, experiencing Power from on High that awakens you to the Spiritual realm in our midst, and a fervent inner draw to select Scriptures in the Bible by the Holy Spirit writing such Scriptures on you heart?

If not, why chose only head knowledge to lead you in what you know about the Bible?
 
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Yes, I have been born of the spirt and baptized in the Jordan river. I'm am from the religions of authority which appeal mainly to the mind. I've always known from the time I was a child that the story of Noah's flood is simply untenable. As an adult I learned that the Hebrew priest who wrote their exaggerated history were attempting to trace their blood lines back to Noah. Unable to do so they decided to drown the whole world in its own wickedness to fill in the gap.
 
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Men wrote and rewrote the scriptures leaving errors within them which should be expected. The false doctrine of the inspiration of the scripture is a form of fetish or idolatry.

Humans aren't perfect, that goes for men of religion. The men who conspired to put Jesus to death were of the highest authority in Judaism. They were moral cowards and quite capable of religious pride. I agree with Jesus, their father was the devil!
 
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Humans aren't perfect, God is, and if he can create a universe and all within it, he's quite capable of communication to us without error.

What I can't figure out, for the few that see it as you do, how do you decide what to believe and what not to? And what if they are mistaken in those efforts?

Nope, something like you suggest would put such doubt in the bible, the whole thing would be an iffy joke. The suggestion what you say is a fact is just people, by design, giving themselves permission to change the bible to what they want it to be...very dangerous.
 
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