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So God created the earth to look old and to look as if life evolved? He made the earth to appear in contrast to the book which the holy men claim he wrote? But that's not all! He allows a crafty Satan creature, with his band of demons, to trick people into rejecting the story he wrote about the earth which he is deliberately deceiving people with?You got it!
Obliquinaut, none of my business, but are you a scientist? if so, what is your area of expertise?
If not, what is your area of expertise?
Not what I said. If anything you are accusing God of being a liar.
That must mean the devil makes fruitcakes?
Hate to come out in defense of AV's position but I think it is pretty well crafted. He is saying that God is not lying, but rather creating something that is truly in all ways as old as it looks, just created in an instant.
It is reasonable to look at that and say "Well that seems dishonest", but if God is creating something that is exactly as it appears to be but didn't take as long to make it (a miracle in the extreme) it would not be lying per se.
The best comparison would be to suggest that God could miraculously make a lie that is true. Presumably God would be capable of this, but again the question arises as to "why".
That is where the real crux of the question over "honesty" lies.
That I'm Genghis Khan?I pointed out a massive error in your reasoning.
The problem is that there is no reason for the Earth to tell a story. And that story that the Earth tells runs counter to a literal interpretation of Genesis. If Genesis is literally true, but God made it look like it wasn't then he would be dishonest. The world could have been created with mature life. With a total lack of fossils, with oil that came with a signature that tells us that it was formed in the Earth rather from plants. The oil could be found in structural traps instead of being found in layers associated with particular fossils, which indicate a particular time.
Since there are countless stories that could be told with the geology of the Earth, but a particular one that told us Genesis is wrong it would be. Try that with an art artifact sometime and see if you are not accused and convicted of lying, counterfeiting is a form of lying.
Serious theists tend to oppose Last Thursdayism because it involves a dishonest creator:
Omphalos hypothesis - Wikipedia
He didn't create the earth just to look old.So God created the earth to look old and to look as if life evolved?
You mean in contrast to this?Colter said:He made the earth to appear in contrast to the book which the holy men claim he wrote?
If it is the earth (landmass) that's confusing you, then back up in Genesis 1 to a verse before God created the land and go from there.The problem is that there is no reason for the Earth to tell a story. And that story that the Earth tells runs counter to a literal interpretation of Genesis.
You misunderstood, I didn't call the crooked preachers who rewrote Israelite history "Bronze Age, goat-herding, desert nomads", I was talking about the people who put their faith in their exaggerated writings. The men who hid behind their own exaggerated history in order to reject Jesus were just as crooked as today's child abusing holy men of the church. But this s just to difficult for Biblevworshipers to face so we witness the sad spectacke of bending reality to fit the erroneous narratives.He didn't create the earth just to look old.
He created the earth old.
The earth looks old because the earth is old.
You mean in contrast to this?
2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Interesting that you're calling them "holy men" now. Very interesting indeed.
In a few posts, they'll be back to "ignorant, bronze age, goat-herding, desert nomads," won't they?
Genesis 1 was written by Adam, and it was written in Jacobean English, which existed up until the time it was obsoleted at the tower of Babel.You misunderstood, I didn't call the crooked preachers who rewrote Israelite history "Bronze Age, goat-herding, desert nomads", I was talking about the people who put their faith in their exaggerated writings.
My wife has the Star of Mongolia on her lower spine.
Uh-huh.Not confusing to us, but a misunderstanding on your part.
Genesis 1 was written by Adam, and it was written in Jacobean English, which existed up until the time it was obsoleted at the tower of Babel.
This means Genesis isn't 'Israelite history.'
According to you you are. I lost count on how many times you made that claim.That I'm Genghis Khan?
I am not the confused one here.If it is the earth (landmass) that's confusing you, then back up in Genesis 1 to a verse before God created the land and go from there.
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