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Noah's Ark Mystery

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How did the Koala bears get from where Noah's Ark was to Australia? :confused:

Were Koala bears on the Ark?

If so, how did Philip get to Azotus in Acts 8.

When you figure that out, you'll know how Koala bears got to Australia.
 
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They must have been, surely? And i don't think they teleported there.

For the record, just where was Australia at the time the Flood ended?

In your opinion.
 
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How did the Koala bears get from where Noah's Ark was to Australia? :confused:

God said that the waters will come from the firmament in the sky, but also from the deep, and from the fountains of the water. The Flood was a global seismic event - and is even theorized to be from a long-orbit dwarf star companion of the sun. So, if Pangea was one land mass (with a bunch of lakes/rivers,) then it should make sense how a dwarf star (or any seismic activity) can cause continental separation (this is where waters from underneath can come from too,) super waves, and even severe weather (especially given seismic activity includes vulcanism.)

So, the critter (or even Noah's ark) could have dropped off in Australia when the activity stopped, and as the waters receded. He sent a dove out a few times, and it eventually came back with an olive branch, but the waters didn't necessarily recede in one day - or even at one time. He even sent a dove after one found an olive branch, and the bird didn't come back.
 
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How, exactly, did eight extreme senior citizens load, manage and care for 32,000 animals?

How do you explain the acquisition and loading of animals not indigenous to the Middle East (many separated by oceans), like the polar bear, the sloth, the crocodile, the fruit bat, the anaconda, etc? And how did the penguins and other cold-climate creatures survive in the blistering desert heat?
 
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How, exactly, did eight extreme senior citizens load, manage and care for 32,000 animals?
God handled the details.

In my opinion, they ate one food: manna.

And just like the widow of Zarephath story in 1 Kings 17, the manna never ran out.
How do you explain the acquisition and loading of animals not indigenous to the Middle East ...
God Himself brought them to the Ark.
... (many separated by oceans),
There was only one ocean at the time: Panthalassa.
like the polar bear,
There was no polar climatology prior to the Flood.

The earth was one tropical paradise.
 
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How, exactly, did eight extreme senior citizens load, manage and care for 32,000 animals?

Well 600+ years old is barely senior citizen when the life expectancy of people [especially of God] is 900+ years - that would be like calling a 60 year old an "extreme" senior citizen when the life expectancy is 95.

And, when you spend 600+ years tending for thousands of animals anyway, it isn't that hard at all. And, only Noah and his wife were "seniors," his sons were probably around 300 - 500 years old, which is 30-50 today.

The Hebrews were animal husbands inherently. They also did not live in the 21st century, and depend on internet, microwaves, cell phones, cars and electricity to live their lives and be productive. Add to the fact that God made the animals cooperative (e.g., a lion wouldn't maul them to death while feeding/washing time) it makes it very easy. Even after Noah, people like Lot had thousands of animals to tend to: people in Africa still tend to hundreds of animals alone. Very few cosmopolitan people of today would be capable of living in the antediluvian world at all (with or without help.) People die from exposure and starvation in the States all the time. The antediluvians built their homes, grew and harvested their own food, and tended to scores of animals.

How do you explain the acquisition and loading of animals not indigenous to the Middle East (many separated by oceans), like the polar bear, the sloth, the crocodile, the fruit bat, the anaconda, etc? And how did the penguins and other cold-climate creatures survive in the blistering desert heat?

If you assume the earth looks as it is today, then it may be difficult to reconcile all of these questions. But, you can look at the earth like puzzle pieces and see that at one point the continents were all one mass give or take. Moreover, if you assume every climate in the regions in question is comparable to the areas of today, then that makes it difficult to reconcile - difficult, but not impossible. You can refer to animals flash frozen with preserved food in their mouths, or even the La Brea tar pits that have a real-once-living mammoth preserved in the pool of tar to this day. Something significant, drastic and quick happened at some time(s).

We know nothing of the climate, and the adaptivity and indigenous nature of any animal at that time - no matter how much scientists say they know. No one with our security clearance (including scientists) have a time machine. So, you will have to reconcile how much faith you have - in science, your own intelligence, the story of Noah, etc.

And, as I said before, God could have easily directed any animal to get to Noah with ease. Did you see Avatar? Pandora's "deity" directed all the moon's animals to fight the "aliens" attacking the planet. It's not that far-fetched for a pagan to believe Gaia can do this on earth, certainly The Most High can do it.
 
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Well 600+ years old is barely senior citizen when the life expectancy of people [especially of God] is 900+ years - that would be like calling a 60 year old an "extreme" senior citizen when the life expectancy is 95.

In 7½ years here, I've yet to see a scientific methodist employ relativity to explain something in the Bible.

Their zeal to believe It is wrong prevents that.
 
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How did the Koala bears get from where Noah's Ark was to Australia? :confused:

(Copied from a post in another thread)

In the Superman comics, they shrank a whole city down and fit it inside of a bottle. That would certainly work for fitting all of the animals and feed for the voyage, and then Noah would just have God de-miniaturize them after the flood. That would help explain how all of the Australian animals got back home without evidence of their journey - they went back to Australia in their respective bottles.

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How did the Koala bears get from where Noah's Ark was to Australia? :confused:

They didn't. Nor is there any sort of a trail of marsupial bones from Ararat to Southern India. The literatures of China, Greece, Rome and other nations note that handfulls of people and animals survived here and there on high places or anything which could float for the better part of a year; the person(s) who wrote the story of Noah didn't have any way of knowing about any of that.
 
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The literatures of China, Greece, Rome and other nations note that handfulls of people and animals survived here and there on high places or anything which could float for the better part of a year;

Funny how the the Chinese aren't mentioned until Genesis 10:17 -- well after the Flood.
 
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the person(s) who wrote the story of Noah didn't have any way of knowing about any of that.
Who do you suppose wrote the story of Noah?
Why do you think Jesus mentioned Noah by name?
Do you share the sentiments of R. Albert Mohler Jr, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky? "Evangelical Christianity and evolution are incompatible beliefs that cannot be held together logically within a distinctly Christian worldview."

He further said, "Given the human tendency toward inconsistency, there are people who will say they hold both positions....but you cannot coherently affirm the Christian-truth claim and the dominant model of evolutionary theory at the same time.

“I believe the Bible is adequately clear about how God created the world, and that its most natural reading points to a six-day creation that included not just the animal and plant species but the earth itself."

I ask this because you are using a Baptist icon.
 
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