Noah's Ark and the Cheetah

[driewerf]

So you disagree with the OP, and you want me to sort it out?

No I don't. I simply want an answer to my question:
If god magicked -- miracled-- the genetic diversity in the rest of the animal world, can you explain me why he left the cheetahs out?
Simply forgotten? Tired? Does god hate cheetahs? Any other option?

 

[AV1611VET]

If god magicked -- miracled-- the genetic diversity in the rest of the animal world, can you explain me why he left the cheetahs out?

I'm sure He didn't leave the cheetahs out.

What the cheetahs did after He created them is their business.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

 

[The Cadet]

No I don't. I simply want an answer to my question:
If god magicked -- miracled-- the genetic diversity in the rest of the animal world, can you explain me why he left the cheetahs out?
Simply forgotten? Tired? Does god hate cheetahs? Any other option?

For a reason which is entirely sufficient to God. If you're going to accept christian theology for the sake of argument, you need to understand that the God they are proposing is all-knowing and all-powerful and works in many mysterious ways. It doesn't matter how stupid it may seem to us, "God works in mysterious ways" or "For a reason which is entirely sufficient to God" is always a good enough (albeit intellectually unfulfilling) answer.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The only sensible conclusion is that the story of Noah is not true.
Maybe it's metaphorical or maybe it's just myth.

Noah saved an eco system not the whole bio sphere. The bible is short on vocabulary. They did not have all the descript words to use compared to us today.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I was challenging your "small subset" claim. Successfully, I might add.

Nope, you failed. The unclean mammals are still much larger than the the clean mammals in number. You failed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You should be more careful in your claims as related to the bible is the point.

Please, you were incredibly wrong. Even 14 is an extreme bottleneck that would more than likely have killed off the line. You were clearly in error since only 2 would mean sure extinction.

 

[justlookinla]

Nope, you failed. The unclean mammals are still much larger than the the clean mammals in number. You failed.

No, they're not "much larger". Try again.

 

[justlookinla]

Please, you were incredibly wrong. Even 14 is an extreme bottleneck that would more than likely have killed off the line. You were clearly in error since only 2 would mean sure extinction.

God had a plan, and the plan worked.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, they're not "much larger". Try again.

Yes, they are. The "clean animals" are pretty much limited to hoofed ungulates ruminants. They are a small part of even just the ungulates, much less of all mammals as a class:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungulate

 

[Subduction Zone]

God had a plan, and the plan worked.

When all else fails fall back on magic.

 

[justlookinla]

Yes, they are. The "clean animals" are pretty much limited to hoofed ungulates ruminants. They are a small part of even just the ungulates, much less of all mammals as a class:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungulate

We could argue about 'much' all day long. The bottom line is that folks should be aware that all animals on the ark were not sets of two. Lots of Christians even make that mistake.

 

[justlookinla]

When all else fails fall back on magic.

Magic?

 

[Subduction Zone]

We could argue about 'much' all day long. The bottom line is that folks should be aware that all animals on the ark were not sets of two. Lots of Christians even make that mistake.

Yes, but the groups that were not twos was a relatively small one. And we also know that there was no worldwide flood. There would have been massive evidence of over five miles of water entering and leaving the Earth.

 

[justlookinla]

Yes, but the groups that were not twos was a relatively small one. And we also know that there was no worldwide flood. There would have been massive evidence of over five miles of water entering and leaving the Earth.

No, you believe there was no worldwide flood. You're still holding to faith-based views.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, you believe there was no worldwide flood. You're still holding to faith-based views.

Wrong again. A belief in the Flood can only be based upon faith based views. There is no scientific evidence that supports it

In fact you can't even explain this:

"2009-08-20-01800 USA Utah 316 Goosenecks SP" by www.Gernot-Keller.com (User: Gernot Keller), London - Canon 5D. Licensed under CC BY 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...09-08-20-01800_USA_Utah_316_Goosenecks_SP.jpg

 

[justlookinla]

Wrong again. A belief in the Flood can only be based upon faith based views. There is no scientific evidence that supports it

In fact you can't even explain this:

"2009-08-20-01800 USA Utah 316 Goosenecks SP" by www.Gernot-Keller.com (User: Gernot Keller), London - Canon 5D. Licensed under CC BY 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...09-08-20-01800_USA_Utah_316_Goosenecks_SP.jpg

What's to explain? Erosion is a mighty powerful force.

 

[The Cadet]

What's to explain? Erosion is a mighty powerful force.

Err... How would a singular flood erode such a winding channel?

And your answer for why cheetahs have such bizarrely low genetic diversity... Is it really just "God did it"?

 

[justlookinla]

Err... How would a singular flood erode such a winding channel?

I dunno.

And your answer for why cheetahs have such bizarrely low genetic diversity... Is it really just "God did it"?

God does lots of creation stuff, I'm sure He'd have no problem with cheetahs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What's to explain? Erosion is a mighty powerful force.

That is not an explanation.

As I said, no Flood advocate can explain that structure. And that is only one of the many many pieces of evidence that tell us a worldwide flood never happened.

 

[justlookinla]

That is not an explanation.

As I said, no Flood advocate can explain that structure. And that is only one of the many many pieces of evidence that tell us a worldwide flood never happened.

Why would that prove that a worldwide flood never happened?