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Noah’s “special” problem

Becky153 said:
You can't prove that they were a different species than humans or apes. You're making a guess.

Perhaps you could show us where the dividing line is here between ape and human. Would you like to have a go?

 
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urbanxy said:
So what exactly are all those hominid fossils, if not human ancestors?
Depends on the fossil. Either it was human or not. As you know, chimps monkeys and apes etc are the things with the similar skulls.
 
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I know this isnt part of the thread but, my proffesor was telling my class today, if all the glaciers where to melt today the sea level would raise 200ft. Thats a lot. Well anyway she showed us a picture of what it would look like if it did. And florida was gone, Ny was gone, alot of places where under water. It got me thinking, if the glaciers where to all melt during Noahs time, pluse rain that God sent, the world could of been easily flooded. Also the groundwater like guysers and stuff, that would of been part of the flood also.
 
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Except that melting glaciers and water from geysers are not biblical, since only rain was mentioned.

Furthermore, a rise of 200ft does not cover the whole earth. For reference, Mt Everest is 26700ft. Groundwater would not raise that by a lot, and for there to be sufficient rain, you would need to invoke something like a "water canopy", which is physically impossible.
 
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I know, i was throwing out some ideas thats it.
 
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urbanxy said:
So what exactly are all those hominid fossils, if not human ancestors?
Unless they were humans, who cares? What kind of monkeyish thingies may have went extinct? There is no reason in this world to think that man did was not created, as all creatures. There is no reason in this world to allow for the old ages required in the fantasy of common ancestor monkey business! That is, except that based on the assumption and belief that the past was as the present, whic cannot be ever more than a belief!!!!
What's left? The fact there is some adapting that has been happening we may know about? So what? That's just the way it used to work, and even now, I think we see a trace of this sort of thing! You have no more links to the apey thingies that lived than you do to cockcroaches.
 
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dad said:
The world was different, and it was possible then.
Indeed. Apparently, it was also possible to make up magical explanations to defend physically impossible assertions and claim them as fact. Such is no longer the case.
 
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Hydra009 said:
Indeed. Apparently, it was also possible to make up magical explanations to defend physically impossible assertions and claim them as fact. Such is no longer the case.
No, there was no physical only impossible cause it didn't exist. Since it came to be men made up magical factually impossible fables of what it was like when their rules di not apply. This is why they have no proof and never will.
 
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I'm glad my fun threads were able to trigger this fun thread.

Very good OP!
 
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jad123 said:
Who cares?????

Somehow God took care of all of this. Who cares about parisites or fungus. Jesus himself spoke of Noah.

It's precisely that attitude which accounts for why we still have so many human parasites around (other than Hovind I mean).
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RE: OP

Could a YEC tell me, without ad hoc responses, I mean really get into some science, how the Guinea Worm could have survived the ride on the Ark given it's reproductive cycle?
 
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In the end faithful believers do not need proof of the flood and any proof offered of a flood would not offer evidence of God to the non-believers.

The Ark is said to be 450ft. long, 75 ft. wide, and 45 ft. high. by many Hebrew scholars. This would have provided over 100,000sq. ft. of floor space.

There are over 1 million of species in the world but when you subtract out any life that could be capable of surviving in water (fish, tunicates, echinoderms, mollusks, coelenterates, sponges, protozoans, some mammals like seals and porpoises, some reptiles like sea turtles and alligators) you end up with somewhere between 35,000 - 50,000 animals required on the ark. Using the above measurements would have easily accomodated the animals.
 
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dad said:
No, there was no physical only impossible cause it didn't exist. Since it came to be men made up magical factually impossible fables of what it was like when their rules di not apply. This is why they have no proof and never will.

Wow. Just wow. Something quite quite special there.

And Jad123, that argument's been blown out of the water so many times.

I can't help thinking most of these so-called Creationists aren't just having a bit of a laugh. Nobody in their right mind could come up with this stuff.

The only problem I have is that your brilliant parodies of these feckless logic-contortionist anti-scientists actually camoflage the geniune loony-tunes out there. At some point there needs to be a amnesty where all the parodiers come clean and admit to the prank.
 
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jad123 said:
The Ark is said to be 450ft. long, 75 ft. wide, and 45 ft. high. by many Hebrew scholars. This would have provided over 100,000sq. ft. of floor space.

Actually, at this point, I'm less interested about the floorspace, and more interested as to how a 600 year old man built something the size of an Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
 
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As I said - In the end faithful believers do not need proof of the flood and any proof offered of a flood would not offer evidence of God to the non-believers.
 
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