No Time, No Age.

[ScottA]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

 

[SkyWriting]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

It is the result of mans sin.
Impossible to quantify, as we should expect.
Many have noted that evil does not get it's
proper due in our time frame. Time is a Grace
period.

 

[Hieronymus]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

Time is a part of reality.

 

[SkyWriting]

Time is a part of reality.

So are dreams.

 

[ScottA]

Time is a part of reality.

I would say that most people's perception of "reality" does not take into account that Time is of the world, and the kingdom of God is not. With the world being "created" and "passing away", I do not consider the world to be anything more than its purpose to God.

 

[Hieronymus]

I would say that most people's perception of "reality" does not take into account that Time is of the world, and the kingdom of God is not.

Okay, then i should have said:
Time is a part of our present reality.
Or
Time is a part of creation.

With the world being "created" and "passing away", I do not consider the world to be anything more than its purpose to God.

Obviously (i.m.o).

 

[ScottA]

Okay, then i should have said:
Time is a part of our present reality.
Or
Time is a part of creation.
Obviously (i.m.o).

The point is that actual reality lies with the Creator, and not with a created object that is passing away.

Greater still, the point of the Original Post, is that as a mere "creation", Time means little more than the illusion that even science has determined. Meaning: If they are right about Time, then they are wrong about the age of the universe. Meanwhile, claiming to be right on both, they are by definition, schizophrenic.

 

[Hieronymus]

The point is that actual reality lies with the Creator, and not with a created object that is passing away.

Sure, but as we're humans on a timeline, reality as we know it is this "space-time" situation.
We share this reality, we're subject to it, so it's "bigger" than us.

 

[ScottA]

Sure, but as we're humans on a timeline, reality as we know it is this "space-time" situation.
We share this reality, we're subject to it, so it's "bigger" than us.

There is no timeline, only a storyline. Time is an illusion. Matter is mere energy, a creation, that is passing away. And if we are of God...then we are greater than the world. Psalm 8:4

 

[VirOptimus]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

Where have you got the idea that science says that time is an illusion?

 

[The Cadet]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

wat

 

[Nithavela]

Of course science can not agree on such an absurd notion.

 

[timewerx]

Time is an illusion.

Nope, it is part of my forum name

 

[loveofourlord]

I think times an illusion, a mental construct we have created, but we still have something we measure and call time, even if it doesn't really exist. A clock still counts a measure of movement and so on, same with the methods we have to tell the age of the earth. Wether time really exists or not, the measure ments are still there, since what we call time is just movement.

 

[Larniavc]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

Who says time is an illusion?

My understanding is that it is a dimension. Dosen't seem very illusionistical.

 

[JacksBratt]

I think he is trying to say "How do we know that time has been constant".

There are theories out there that believe that the speed of light is slowing down. This would change the rate of the passing of time.

 

[durangodawood]

How does science stand its ground on the age of the universe, when science cannot agree that Time is anything but an illusion?

What does the Bible say about time?

 

[timewerx]

I think he is trying to say "How do we know that time has been constant".

There are theories out there that believe that the speed of light is slowing down. This would change the rate of the passing of time.

The change in the rate of time, doesn't change its nature.


And yes, about the speed of light.

It is a proven fact in Gamma Ray astronomy and radio communications not all wavelengths of light travel at the same speed.

Both the higher end wavelength of Gamma Rays and lower end of Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic waves (ELF radio frequency waves) travel a bit slower than the visible spectrum of light.

Why? I don't know.....But it's actually a fascinating thing to know and to further investigate about....That the the speed of Electromagnetic waves (light) is not absolutely the same in all flavors. They are also affected by the wavelength.


I have also previously experimented with transverse ELF pulsed electric fields and they also seem to affect the rate of time at rest (zero speed). It was one of my attempts at making the warp drive a reality. But it may also be utilized as a time machine of some sort.

 

[ScottA]

Where have you got the idea that science says that time is an illusion?

Einstein.

 

[ScottA]

I think times an illusion, a mental construct we have created, but we still have something we measure and call time, even if it doesn't really exist. A clock still counts a measure of movement and so on, same with the methods we have to tell the age of the earth. Wether time really exists or not, the measure ments are still there, since what we call time is just movement.

But but speculation and conjecture are not a confirmation of anything...except as a measure of our true knowledge.