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No Such Thing as Atheism.

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I think you will find it's "Men who can see trying to find an invisible wall."
True, I can only see what's there.

When people tell me to believe something that isn't there and the bible tells me stories that aren't true. People twist the words of Jesus in the bible. I can only conclude, given the evidence from the history of churches linking themselves to despotic rulers who kept ordinary folk in serfdom for the benefit of the church and rulers.

That a lot of what a poor Jewish carpenter, walking and preaching in Palestine, said and was executed for trying to break the hold of a similar money making religion. Has been twisted to the benefit of men who drape themselves in fine robes, and telling everyone they know more than those who question them.

I will refrain from throwing personal insults, it's unChristian.
 
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You might not be curious enough about the real answer, but don't disparage those who are.
 
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An answer you think you have.
That's not fair. He's more certain of his answers than any scientist or you and me, Scientists and us ask questions that are hard to answer, that we are still looking for the answers. Wryetui has a book that gives him all the answers, he never questions them, for him they are all he needs.

This follows 1,000s of years of tradition in all the religions. They give all the answers anyone needs. They may all end up giving different answers, his church gives different ones from others, but that doesn't shake his certainty his answers right and everyone else is blind.
 
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I think this is true and them spending all their time on christian lists and even spending their time copy and mocking it on other sites is proof they don't believe what they say they believe. because who are they trying to convince but themselves?
but to spend so much time time on this site proves they are either profoundly and militantly hateful and not in anyway
"liberal" so by their actions of their true values even that they mock that word by being on these sites spreading their militant lack of " tolerance " . it is all just one huge militant hypocrisy that they mock everything and all creation and all history and true science. what a stinky joke.
 
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We are trying to counter the argument that Stone and Bronze Age men who started so many religions that are so wrong. Are right.

Even modern day Christians have dropped much of what the bible preaches. The group who want to go back to the letter of the book, are currently trying to tear the Middle East apart. Yes I understand there's is a false religion, they're doing it all wrong, etc. That's what all religions say about each other. I recently met some Christians, who claimed exactly that about other Christians sects.
 
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Yes I understand there's is a false religion, they're doing it all wrong, etc. That's what all religions say about each other.
so it is ok for Atheists preachin your brand of hate speech and that makes this it ok for you'all to be a hypocrite because of what you demand of us you don't do it , but you don't have to be "tolerant" and "Liberal" right ? so it is ok for you to be militant?
so good luck with that.
 
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It's not hate speech. It's love speech.


eudaimonia,

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We are trying to debate. That the bible might not be 100% true. Even Christians are prepared to admit that, they no longer kill or punish people as ordered in the bible. They have dropped the old Judaic laws, even though Jesus expressly said they're not to. Some churches have twisted them, common is the one on tithes and who should pay them.

My personal problems with organised religions is their lack of debate and the way they glorify themselves with building, garbs and wealth. While preaching the message of men who gave up worldly goods to spread the message. We arrived at a point, 100s of years ago, where Jesus was so enraged at the commercialism of the religion, he went into the Temple and upset everything.

A preacher needs nothing but a mount to spread his message.
 
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"That the bible might not be 100% true"

just in your dreams . the truth is it is perfect for what he intended..
to confuse the goofy who don't know what they don't know. and then refuse to ask him . it is perfect because he is perfect. .
 
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just in your dreams . the truth is it is perfect for what he intended..
to confuse the goofy who don't know what they don't know. and then refuse to ask him . it is perfect because he is perfect. .
Are you calling us Atheist goofy?
I was only talking to the christian who started this thread and why I agreed with him. so
my Lord doesn't like us debating with anyone. so
Then why get involved in a Philosophy forum?
 
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Neuroscientists that have a disagreement have tools such as scientific methodology that they can use to analyze and process their data. They can construct hypotheses, test, falsify, and have their experiments replicated (or not) by others.

Tell me about how religionists go about resolving differences of opinion about their many and varied, and often contradictory "holy" texts? Debate? Popular vote? Warfare?
 
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