I don't know why the conversion of a pagan temple to a Christian church would be considered unbiblical. Isn't the church all about converting pagans?
1 Tim 4:14 Do not neglect the spiritual gift within you, which was bestowed on you through prophetic utterance with the laying on of hands by the presbytery.wrong, show me that in scripture?
Again, you quote a bunch of verses irrelevant to any reply. I stop reading your post as soon as I get a whiff of your non sequiturs.“and breaking bread from house to house,” ( Acts 2;46)
“ As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison. “ (Acts 8:3) Paul knew where to find them.
Yes. CONVERTED. that means changed from one to another. It doesn't mean adding one to another. Conversion is a good thing.a pagan temple to a christian church???
1 Tim 4:14 Do not neglect the spiritual gift within you, which was bestowed on you through prophetic utterance with the laying on of hands by the presbytery.
This refers to Timothy's ordination.
Here is an account of ordination from Acts 6 (including Stephen):
So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, "It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables. Brothers and sisters, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word." This proposal pleased the whole group. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit; also Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas from Antioch, a convert to Judaism. They presented these men to the apostles, who prayed and laid their hands on them.
Yes. CONVERTED. that means changed from one to another. It doesn't mean adding one to another. Conversion is a good thing.
Again, you quote a bunch of verses irrelevant to any reply. I stop reading your post as soon as I get a whiff of your non sequiturs.
I've met others who also make that mistake, so this isn't too surprising to read.no, Timothy had a spiritual gift given through laying on of hands, and i do believe in ordaining elders.
Timothy was not an Apostle in the sense of being one of the Twelve, and there is no indication anywhere else in Scripture that he was made a bishop -- the other common use of the word.Timothy was an apostle by the way, NOT a PASTOR or local elder.
Sure it is. The ordained and non-ordained. As in Acts 6, the ordained are given teaching authority--just seven of them, not all.also you mention clergymen, and laypersons. This clergy and laity division is nowhere found in scripture.
Stay on topic. If you quote a reply, then answer that reply. Don't go off on some other subject.these verses rebuke the large so called unbiblical places many meet in today called "Churches"
I've met others who also make that mistake, so this isn't too surprising to read.
Timothy was not an Apostle in the sense of being one of the Twelve, and there is no indication anywhere else in Scripture that he was made a bishop -- the other common use of the word.
Words have multiple definitions. That's why when you look in a dictionary it numbers them 1 2 3... Church has several meanings. It can mean the body of all believers. It can mean the institutional churches that the apostles set up or the church as a whole. And yes, it can mean a building. So please don't play semantical games with me.no the church is the body of Christ not a man made building. The church is made a spiritual house of living stones
there is no teaching authority...authority is when they speak the word of God and their example of their faith in their walk. Authority is a whole different post. I may have to post a study on the true and false authority today in the churchSure it is. The ordained and non-ordained. As in Acts 6, the ordained are given teaching authority--just seven of them, not all.
A new church with a small group of people can do that. But when you have 4000 families like my church, you had better have something bigger than a house for us to meet in.I was showing you the biblical model of meeting in homes as the church should do today
Words have multiple definitions. That's why when you look in a dictionary it numbers them 1 2 3... Church has several meanings. It can mean the body of all believers. It can mean the institutional churches that the apostles set up or the church as a whole. And yes, it can mean a building. So please don't play semantical games with me.
No it doesn't. The laying on of hands indicates the giving of a special grace, such as the grace of healing in the annointing of the sick, or the baptism of the holy spirit.This ordaining simply means recognizing them.
A new church with a small group of people can do that. But when you have 4000 families like my church, you had better have something bigger than a house for us to meet in.
Good heavens! Timothy was not an apostle.Timothy was an apostle by the way, NOT a PASTOR or local elder. This is clearly seen in scripture if we study the word and rightly divide it.
No it doesn't. The laying on of hands indicates the giving of a special grace, such as the grace of healing in the annointing of the sick, or the baptism of the holy spirit.
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