No aliens only angels.

[Job28]

Yes, the Devil has been at work for a long time and never stops trying.

What can we believe if we believe the Devil is so powerful that he created this whole idea of fooling people into believing that other life forms do exist elsewhere. Then there is no end to his deceit and he is capable and powerful enough to deceive anyone at any time and I don't think this is so. I take the previous posters point that just because aliens they are not mentioned in the bible does not mean they don't exist (or maybe they do ''sons of God lay with daughters of men''?????) We could question why the book of Enoch was not included in the bible. Quote: The Book of Enoch was considered as scripture in the Epistle of Barnabas (16:4) and by many of the early Church Fathers, such as Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Tertullian, who wrote c. 200 that the Book of Enoch had been rejected by the Jews because it contained prophecies pertaining to Christ.

What about the Gnostic gospels found in Nag Hammadi? Why were they hidden and not destroyed? I heard these were hidden by priests, not sure if that is true but if so why did they choose to hide them rather than destroy them???.

 

[Walk together]

I suspect that everyone has seen "UFOs", ie, flying things they couldn't identify. The silliness begins when we decide that if we couldn't identify something thqt it must have been unidentifiable. That is, of course,nonsense. There are as many ways to misidentify something, especially something far away and possibly moving fast, as there are multitudes of things to misidentify. To decide that something is spacemen or demons in a flying saucer becaue we don't know what it really is is simply crackpottery.

If someone saids "It defied the laws of physics", be assured that it did no such thing. God Himself established the laws of Physics. People only discovered them by observation. If it appeared to to do things that it would require unimaginable amounts or energy for any physical object to do, then it only appeared to do so.

In anything of this sort, simplest assumptions are best, and the most like to be true. Yes, the kights flashing across the clouds at impossible speeds may be flying saucers from a distant galaxy where they have learned to transcend time and space, or it could be demons trying to deceive people into believing that they are spacemenn from that distant galaxy. But more likely they're lights from the laser show at a nearby arena doing thing that are entirely unremarkable for a laser show. (The last scenario generated hundreds of UFO reports here a few years ago.) Yeah aliens or demons may well be able to do those things, assuming that aliens exist and/or demons are interested in such things. But to asume that hat is wat' happenin is simply silly. Blaming the things we can't easily figure out on being or forces who may not even exist, or who may have no power or desire to do such things is simply a matter of intellectual laziness or wildly overactive imagination.

Syllogism, then: A: I have seen things I cannot identfy. B: I have reason to believe that these things are real C: Ergo these things must be angels. You an see how that logically that doesn't hold up. The universe, and our world, for that matter are in all probability chockablock with things you can't identify, most of which are neither spacemen nor angels. Yet you have chosen to limit your thinking to accept only that conclusion.

[quoteI can not see why it is so hard for some people to accept this the devil revealed himself as a snake to Eve even allowing the snake to talk if I could turn into a talking snake I would think I could just as easily turn into an air bourn craft or as some people claim to have witnessed a strange alien creature.

The idea that any flying thing we can't readily identify must necesarily be a demon doesn't play logically whether the devil has he abiity to pull off such a ruse or not. To say he can doesn't at mean at all that he did. A great many unpleasant things happen in the world every day that are not direct acts of Satan although he may have the ability to make bad things happen. To say "I don't now why Bob ran off the road and broke his neck, Satan must have yanked the wheel out of his hand and stomped the accerator" is not the most obvious answer, even though Satan may have the abiilty to have done so. Yeah, it's possible that that's what happened, but simpler explantions are more likely true: Bob fell asleep at the wheel, an animal ran in front of the car, Bob was going too fast and straightened a curve, ad infinitum. Satanic intervention cimes way down the list.[/QUOTE]
Some of the objects that I have witnessed have been very close and as for misidentifying them, I can say without a dought that they were not anything man made at least nothing conventual. I will give one example of an object that I witnessed just before sunrise I looked up and see what I first thought was the moon one third lit the sky was clear just starting to turn blue and I looked up again and realised something was wrong a mist was circling the object and it was lit on the wrong side the lit side was facing west and of course the sun was in the east. I ran inside and shook my wife awake practically dragging her outside and asking her to pray. On getting back outside we looked up and the moon shaped object had gone only leaving a very dark smoky disk shaped ring in the sky. And yes I have seen powerful spotlights reflecting of clouds aircraft lights above clouds and many things that are obvious like that but I can tell the difference between a dog and a cat.

 

[Walk together]

God has the ability to reveal his hidden creation to us at any time to an extent far greater than lights in the sky UFO's of any other strange event one can imagine so the question is why doesn't God do that. If God came down from the clouds and convinced the world that he exists the first thing that will happen is shock and horror for most people an event of this type would disrupt the very fabric of society but yet God lets his creation do as it does like the fallen angels let louse like bad children unsupervised are humans any different are we not free to choose we can run ramped until apprehended and punished. What do you think the fallen angels are doing they are up to no good working hard for their leader the devil to disrupt and destroy Gods people. God lets this negative force have limited power only to act as a resistance to help strengthen the positive force that we chose in our lives. Nothing can grow strong without resistance if we use the negative side of life in a safe and understanding way we can learn and grow in a positive way just like driving a car do it safely and with understanding and all is well but as we know there is a negative side to driving that is always present. Does God drive your car for you no does God tell you what to think if you see a strange object in the sky no. God most certainly can deliver miracles any time he chooses but that is God decision, not ours God is no show pony he has created this universe and he will let it play out under the control of his creation God is waiting for the time we conclude and reach our end so he can start afresh with people that have learned to respect and understand the fundamental nature of the universe as God intended that is to place love as the driving force of all things.

 

[Davy]

In what capacity? Because with all due respect, even some mechanics get this wrong. The only people who would see what I saw for what it was are plane spotters, flight crew, highly observant cabin crew and loadmasters with an interest in aviation, dispatchers, chiefly those who fly their annual checkride on aircraft with more substantial windows and have a good view from the jumpseat,which would surely be the case on any flight deck design that once had a flight engineer and in some cases a navigator (the 707/727 flight deck, and in theory, the shorter version of it on the 737, also the 767 which was originally designed for a three man crew due to regulatory issues, the L188A/B Electra and military derivatives which still do aerial firefighting, and the DC-10 and MD-11), some tower controllers (chiefly those on aircraft carriers that watch departing aircraft organize into groups), and aircraft handlers, ramp agents, bag smashers, and fuelers at less busy airports, such as outstations with only regional jet service.

People who might not grasp what they are seeing are typical cabin crew, inexperienced general aviation pilots, of the sort who fly into the Bravo and then get outraged at the controller for responding to their illegal incursion into terminal airspace, or land on taxiways, gate agents, whose job these days involves being yelled at, the TSA, who aren’t prepared to look at the sky, and ATC controller trainees or controllers who never work a tower, and of course the general public, and groups like the chemtrail people.

Some UFOs are real insofar as they are unidentified, but we have zero evidence they are extraterrestrial. And U2s, the A12 Oxcart, the SR-71, the XB-70 Valkyrie, HaveBlue, the production F-117, the B2, the F-22 and YF-23, the X35B, the ZeppelinNT, Scaled Composites spaceplanes and the ISS have all at one time either been classified or misidentified due to novelty.

Oh wow! And I thought you were going to say one would have to be a PILOT per your personal requirements!

I was a USAF crew chief on B-52D, C-5A, C-141, KC-135, C-130, and a flight engineer on C-141, having attended flight engineer school at Charleston AFB, South Carolina. And I've worked in the aviation field for 42 years, like I said.

But one doesn't have to had gone through all that I did in order to 'know' no nation on earth has such a vehicle that shoots up like a shooting star as per that video. Thus the ONLY recourse of disbelief of that video is to think it has been tampered with, or someone shot an object directly in front of the camera lens to simulate what that UFO did. But comparing it to real aircraft of today, no way can anything we have do that.

 

[Freedm]

The African Dogon tribe knew about the existence of Sirius B thousands of years before it was discovered with powerful telescope.

Indeed, there are many examples of ancient tribes having knowledge they could not have had. This is because God had sent 72 angels to watch over men in the early days, but they broke the rules and interacted with men and were worshipped by men as Gods. In other words, those angels "fell". This is why ancient cultures knew unknowable things and why ancient cultures built impossible structures and possessed undiscovered technologies.

This is the reason that Jesus sent 72 disciples out into the world to spread the good word, as a type of "do over", where the original 72 messengers failed, these new messengers succeeded.

 

[Walk together]

I too believe that the fallen angels have given us technology as they know that the so called innovations of this world will be a large part of its downfall. The fallen angels give gifts of destruction to the gullible and the good angels give gifts of worthwhile knowledge to the believers of Christ and his father.

 

[Freedm]

I too believe that the fallen angels have given us technology as they know that the so called innovations of this world will be a large part of its downfall. The fallen angels give gifts of destruction to the gullible and the good angels give gifts of worthwhile knowledge to the believers of Christ and his father.

I don't actually believe they did it to bring about the downfall of the world. I think they did it because they wanted to be kings and they wanted to be admired and worshipped.

 

[Walk together]

There are no alien beings coming to observe us help us or deceive us we can only be visited by angels be it good or bad visitation. God and his Son Jesus along with God's good angels are no show ponies they go about their business very quietly and without fuss, on the other hand, the fallen angels are deceivers, bad, and out to achieve destruction in any way they can mostly by means of deception. So my point is the phenomena of UFO's lights in the sky abduction cases are without doubt the work of the devil and his followers the fallen angels. The victims of this purposeful front are affected and destroyed in many divers ways some will be taken in by the fascination and hopefulness of an ET race coming to save them this is a ploy to draw them away from the truth in God. Others will be deceived by convincing them with a lie that will have their families and friends consider them mad. Some people will just go mad by the very experience of their sightings encounters and conclusions. The devil has many other ways that he can disrupt the world he can destroy the lives of anyone that opens a door and accepts his invite. UFO's, aliens, demonic interests most people fall into his trap without realising the consequential destructive force and some willingly have a love and fascination for the exotic nature of the Unown the devil will happily take his victims any way they fall just so long as they fall to him and miss out on the glory of God.

 

[RickReads]

There are no alien beings coming to observe us help us or deceive us we can only be visited by angels be it good or bad visitation. God and his Son Jesus along with God's good angels are no show ponies they go about their business very quietly and without fuss, on the other hand, the fallen angels are deceivers, bad, and out to achieve destruction in any way they can mostly by means of deception. So my point is the phenomena of UFO's lights in the sky abduction cases are without doubt the work of the devil and his followers the fallen angels. The victims of this purposeful front are affected and destroyed in many divers ways some will be taken in by the fascination and hopefulness of an ET race coming to save them this is a ploy to draw them away from the truth in God. Others will be deceived by convincing them with a lie that will have their families and friends consider them mad. Some people will just go mad by the very experience of their sightings encounters and conclusions. The devil has many other ways that he can disrupt the world he can destroy the lives of anyone that opens a door and accepts his invite. UFO's, aliens, demonic interests most people fall into his trap without realising the consequential destructive force and some willingly have a love and fascination for the exotic nature of the Unown the devil will happily take his victims any way they fall just so long as they fall to him and miss out on the glory of God.

All of that is easily discernable. It has always baffled me to see the amount of denial among people who are supposed to be believers. Even further shocking to see those who will tell you that you're crazy to believe such things in spite of all the evidence.

The gospel doesn't need to hide from evidence.

 

[Walk together]

All of that is easily discernable. It has always baffled me to see the amount of denial among people who are supposed to be believers. Even further shocking to see those who will tell you that you're crazy to believe such things in spite of all the evidence.

The gospel doesn't need to hide from evidence.

That's right we are supposedly crazy believing in God and his word, and there are those that believe in other intelligent life forms coming to earth from afar. God has spread life forms all over this earth and that in itself is by far the greatest gift to us at this time. God has no business sending ET's to this world to help us save us or intimidate us he has only one plan and that is to send his son Jesus back to planet earth to finalize and accomplish the end result that being to cast the devil away for a thousand years remove the disbelieving corrupted and evil ones from the company and sight of his loving children. This is God's plan and no other form of life or entity will stand in the way of the new world to soon come. Those who chose to believe in ET's and those who chose to bow to the devil are the ones that God has warned I am a jealous God and there shall be no other gods before me. This is not a sinful jealousy as God is the creature and the rightful owner of all things there for his commandments are true and just therefore must be believed and followed to receive the eternal gift of ever lasting life.

 

[RickReads]

That's right we are supposedly crazy believing in God and his word, and there are those that believe in other intelligent life forms coming to earth from afar. God has spread life forms all over this earth and that in itself is by far the greatest gift to us at this time. God has no business sending ET's to this world to help us save us or intimidate us he has only one plan and that is to send his son Jesus back to planet earth to finalize and accomplish the end result that being to cast the devil away for a thousand years remove the disbelieving corrupted and evil ones from the company and sight of his loving children. This is God's plan and no other form of life or entity will stand in the way of the new world to soon come. Those who chose to believe in ET's and those who chose to bow to the devil are the ones that God has warned I am a jealous God and there shall be no other gods before me. This is not a sinful jealousy as God is the creature and the rightful owner of all things there for his commandments are true and just therefore must be believed and followed to receive the eternal gift of ever lasting life.

The Apostle Paul said Satan is the prince of the power of the air. I believe it is a reference to the UFO
activity that confirms its source. What is the power of the air ? there's a real question for the board.

 

[RickReads]

Ephesians 2
2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


According to this passage, the power of the air is at work in anyone who isn't saved.

 

[SkyWriting]

The Apostle Paul said Satan is the prince of the power of the air. I believe it is a reference to the UFO
activity that confirms its source. What is the power of the air ? there's a real question for the board.

I saw a UFO this morning over the expressway. It hovered in one place and changed shape from circular to square and then to a tube shape. As I watched it retreated up into the upper atmosphere.



It might have been about 50 balloons tied together but it is certainly unidentified.

 

[Freedm]

I read a vision, years ago, I don't remember where and I don't know if it was legit or not, but it was a man who claimed to have seen a vision of heaven and the thing that I found interesting is that he saw all kinds of creatures in heaven. Some looked like the creatures we have on earth, others looked like hybrids and still others looked like no other creature he had ever seen before.

So with that in mind, whether this vision was real or not, we have to remember that God is a creative God and he created thousands of different types of creatures to live with us here on earth and it shouldn't surprise us that he may have also created thousands of different types of creatures to live in heaven. These creatures may all be angels, or not, we don't know, but we have to admit that it's possible that he created creatures that we've come to refer to as "alien greys" or "reptilians" who were in service to Him but have fallen and are up to no good. This is not outside the realms of possibility or plausibility, and it would explain a lot.

 

[Walk together]

God has given us free will and a mind that is capable of many things. God has given his first creation the angel even more power and creativeness than us the angels have free will as well hence allowing one third of his angels to follow satan. When we do good things and are happy with our work we say thanks to God for the talent and ability that we are blest with the devil and his crew give no thanks to their creator but use their abilities and free will to work against us. If we have a bad neighbour we should be wary and avoid their influence the same for UFOs and so called alien beings we should be wary and denie them our attention see them for what they are and they will flee from us just as the thief will run from the light that is what the devil and his followers are thief's stealing God's children. I see no more UFOs because they know that I know and they flee. God's good angels are entrusted with greater powers and when God sends his good angels to help us they will go about their work unnoticed so as to not distract us but guide us for the good of God and ourselves. God will not let the devil take us against our will but when the time comes God will take us and we will know that it really is God and not a deceptive force.

 

[SkyWriting]

I read a vision, years ago, I don't remember where and I don't know if it was legit or not, but it was a man who claimed to have seen a vision of heaven and the thing that I found interesting is that he saw all kinds of creatures in heaven. Some looked like the creatures we have on earth, others looked like hybrids and still others looked like no other creature he had ever seen before.

So with that in mind, whether this vision was real or not, we have to remember that God is a creative God and he created thousands of different types of creatures to live with us here on earth and it shouldn't surprise us that he may have also created thousands of different types of creatures to live in heaven. These creatures may all be angels, or not, we don't know, but we have to admit that it's possible that he created creatures that we've come to refer to as "alien greys" or "reptilians" who were in service to Him but have fallen and are up to no good. This is not outside the realms of possibility or plausibility, and it would explain a lot.

All visions are real, but any from God are very rare.

 

[Walk together]

The days are getting shorter birth pains are very close. The disbelievers are about to get the biggest dose of the very fundamental reality that has sustained us all since the time of Adam and learn that they have missed the boat. God's first and greatest love is his Son Jesus and God can only accept his other children that come to love his first son that is Jesus our oldest brother and saviour. As Jesus said he is the truth the way and the life no one will come to the father but through me. Jesus has no special privilege other than the carriage of God's love and it is this carriage of love that can carry us all but not all will be on board due to their very denial of Jesus. Would you let a blasphemer a thief an ungrateful denier of the truth the ones that never ask for forgiveness ride in a carriage alongside of your Son? We must deny all the things that God has not told us and cherish all of the lessons that He has. The Bible is the books of life and for thoughts that believe all of the scriptures and come to love Jesus have received the passport that is your name is in God's personal book of life, you will have a place in the new world alongside all the other lovers of Jesus.