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NIV...Do you think it contains error?
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For studying what? I don't study the Bible. I spend my every moment studying the Master of the Universe endeavoring to get to know him better. Most of my biblical memory is based on the KJV. I love the clarity of the NIV, the NKJV, and the Message. But I do not base what I believe about the Master on any one version or verse. In the end, if you are a good student which version you use does not matter.NeverADullMoment said:
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statrei said:
Fair enough, then why get so upset when people use the KJV? If they're good students, it doesn't matter, you said so yourself.
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Statrei, I think we're getting off on the wrong foot here.
Let me rephrase the question, what Bible version do you take with you to church on Sabbath?
You don't study the Bible at all?
Let me rephrase the question, what Bible version do you take with you to church on Sabbath?
You don't study the Bible at all?
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I usually take my iPod on which I have NIV and the Message. Last Sabbath I took a printed Bible: it was the NKJV.NeverADullMoment said:
Why should I study the Bible. Does it really make sense to limit one's study of a subject to the very first textbook written? Everyday I study God's first book: Nature. It is amazing what you learn about Him when you study Nature.
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You basically called anyone that uses the KJV ignorant, I was hoping maybe that you were just upset and that it's not your manner.
Can you answer a question or is it against everything you hold firm? Do you really not study the Bible at all? Do you take one to church with you?
Can you answer a question or is it against everything you hold firm? Do you really not study the Bible at all? Do you take one to church with you?
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I answer questions that are relevant. Just thing how ridiculous it is for anyone here to suggest that a Catholic would take on an Adventist icon to come and debate in this room. First, you can debate anything on General Theology and debating with Adventists would be of no real benefit. Second, that person would then be unable to fellowship fully with his Catholic friends.NeverADullMoment said:
I can't understand why Adventist have become so paranoid. First, it was Jesuits in the GC. Now, we look for them in internet forums. This is laughable.
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If you are having problems with comprehension work on it instead of accusing others of doing wrong. Find a dictionary and discover what ignorance means.NeverADullMoment said:
I answered your questions in another post.
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You're right it is laughable, and we all know why you're here. It's certainly not to give a different perspective, it's to argue.
I'm done.
I'm done.
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NeverADullMoment said:
I can't find where Statrei said the above in bold.
How is it that we are reduced to asking adults what Bible they take to church on Sabbaths, and if a person responds in a way that we are not entirely comfy with, we get upset?
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statrei said:
I really was just curious as to which Bible he approves of since he doesn't seem to think those using the KJV are educated about its history.
I asked him the church question because he doesn't go. He'll never admit it though. He doesn't even study the Bible.
I'm going to retire from this site until the moderators do something about this guy.
Blessings.
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NeverADullMoment said:
Oh ok.
But, one question (maybe two
). Going to church means what to you? It might mean something else entirely to me and to others on this forum. How do we determine that any person is worthy of fellowship? By the Bible (s)he reads and the number of times (s)he goes into the church building? By the tone of this thread, this suggests to me that you know Statrei personally. Have you met before? How do you know that he does not go to church and that he does not read the Bible? It just occured to me that he hasn't been asked yet if he reads EGW. But I am new still.
What has Statrei done for some to think that him not being a part of this site will make it a better place? (Rhetorical question really.)
I am really and truly missing something here ...
(So I lied about the "one" question. Sorry
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I didn't intend for this thread to become a debate about the KJV bible. I had noticed some differences in the verses comparing the NIV to my KJB. I wondered what that meant, what others thought that it even MIGHT mean. That's all.
I put no one down for using the NIV, or any other bible. I was merely being honest when I said I love the KJV, and really don't want to use any other.
I put no one down for using the NIV, or any other bible. I was merely being honest when I said I love the KJV, and really don't want to use any other.
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It was brought to my attention while watching this week's Lesson on 3ABN that reference was made to a text in Mark 7:18,19
and how the meaning has been changed by one of the translations.
They now make out it should mean we can eat anything we like.
Mark 7:18,19
"18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")(NIV)"
The additional words in brackets at the end of verse 19 was never in the Greek. It was put there by those who did the translation.
Here is what it should say.
"18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? (KJV)"
and how the meaning has been changed by one of the translations.
They now make out it should mean we can eat anything we like.
Mark 7:18,19
"18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")(NIV)"
The additional words in brackets at the end of verse 19 was never in the Greek. It was put there by those who did the translation.
Here is what it should say.
"18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? (KJV)"
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For the record I believe there are inaccuracies in any translation... I use over 10 different ones...
the KJV, the KJV with apocrypha, the Literal Translation of the Bible, The Bible in Basic English, The Weymouth Bible, Young's Literal Translation, The Message Bible, The Hebrews Names Bible, The America Standard Version, the Word English Bible, the International New Testament....It is surprising what some of the verses we quote really say......
the KJV, the KJV with apocrypha, the Literal Translation of the Bible, The Bible in Basic English, The Weymouth Bible, Young's Literal Translation, The Message Bible, The Hebrews Names Bible, The America Standard Version, the Word English Bible, the International New Testament....It is surprising what some of the verses we quote really say......
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