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Don't you know that evil people will not receive God's kingdom? Don't be fooled. Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom. Neither will those who worship statues of gods or commit adultery. Neither will men who are prostitutes or who commit homosexual acts. 1cor 6:9

Good things the translators are making the translations more precise and easier to understand: and that is exactly what the job of a translator is. To translate, sometimes ancient, foreign languages into another language for readers to understand what the meaning is through the language and time barriers.
 
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Don't you know that evil people will not receive God's kingdom? Don't be fooled. Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom. Neither will those who worship statues of gods or commit adultery. Neither will men who are prostitutes or who commit homosexual acts. 1cor 6:9

Good things the translators are making the translations more precise and easier to understand: and that is exactly what the job of a translator is. To translate, sometimes ancient, foreign languages into another language for readers to understand what the meaning is through the language and time barriers.
sure we won't...
 
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“If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense. Lev 20:13 NLT

Looks the New Living Traslation is very modern and more concise also.
 
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Don't you know that evil people will not receive God's kingdom? Don't be fooled. Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom. Neither will those who worship statues of gods or commit adultery. Neither will men who are prostitutes or who commit homosexual acts. 1cor 6:9

Good things the translators are making the translations more precise and easier to understand: and that is exactly what the job of a translator is. To translate, sometimes ancient, foreign languages into another language for readers to understand what the meaning is through the language and time barriers.
Easier to understand yes. But highly inaccurate. Sadly. How on earth do they translate effeminate to prostitute and pedastry to homosexual? Or did they swap the words around and assume effeminates are homosexuals now?
 
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Having a job and doing it well are two separate things.

Christians are busy arguing over translations while my Islamic friends in the distance laugh at this, believing because of these divisions that the Scriptures cannot be the inspired Word of God.

The translators should be [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ing their pants if they falsely translate something, since they bear the responsibility of making sure Scripture is as accurately translated as possible. If something is translated as sin, but it isn't sin, then their false witness will lead people astray from Christ from being discouraged about the falsely translated Word of God.

I will openly say that pornia, the greek word for sexual immorality, includes homosexuality.

Since I believe pornia includes homosexuality as a sexual immoral thing, one as a Christian is commanded to flee from it.

Ergo, it is my belief that to use the freedom that Christ gave to us to endulge in the sin nature will make us self-condemned.

We are alive in Christ, dead to sin. Christ crucified our sinful passions and desires to the cross, freeing us from bondage. If we use our freedom in Christ to pursue our sinful passions and desires, we make ourselves self-condemned.
 
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Don't you know that evil people will not receive God's kingdom? Don't be fooled. Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom. Neither will those who worship statues of gods or commit adultery. Neither will men who are prostitutes or who commit homosexual acts. 1cor 6:9

Good things the translators are making the translations more precise and easier to understand: and that is exactly what the job of a translator is. To translate, sometimes ancient, foreign languages into another language for readers to understand what the meaning is through the language and time barriers.
However, the only way to get “homosexual” into 1 Corinthians is to mistranslate arsenokoites. So much for precise translations
 
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Christians are busy arguing over translations while my Islamic friends in the distance laugh at this, believing because of these divisions that the Scriptures cannot be the inspired Word of God.

A point that Muslims don't like to recognize is that there are different translations of the Qur'an also.
 
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However, the only way to get “homosexual” into 1 Corinthians is to mistranslate arsenokoites. So much for precise translations


Exactly...

Is Homosexual really the most exact translation of the word "Arsenokoites"??? Scholars aren't really sure. Why???

The Greek language (the language of Paul) had very specific terms for different homosexual-acts and persons, but Paul glaringly used none of them and chose to make up his own compound word of man and bed.

Also, how can the translators get Homosexual from the Bible in anyway shape or form since the books of the bible were completed in the first centuries CE and the word Homosexual was not invented until the 19th century.

To the Hebrew mind only two types of homosexuality existed: 1. Pagan Religious Sexual Acts and 2. Acts of Sex or Rape for Domination/Humiliation/Mentoring. Nowhere in the bible can you find condemnation for loving relationships between two people of the same sex. On the contrary, the references to homosexuality in the bible are express in their mention of the above two practices. (i.e. Leviticus=1, Genesis=2, Judges=2, Romans=1, Corinthians=1, Jude=1). No, reference to same sex love at all.

Of course, most will probably write me off as I am a Gay Christian...Yep I'm a Homo and proud of it.
 
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A point that Muslims don't like to recognize is that there are different translations of the Qur'an also.

But, traditionally, for both muslims and Jews, any tranlation is no longer the true scriptures. Both religions only accept the original language as inspired, and both expect everyone to study the original words.

Christianity, once it split from Judaism lost a lot of that recognition that any translation involves interpretation and reflects the biases of the translators.
 
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Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. 2 Timothy 2:14

As has been said, it serves no purpose to do a Word study with folks who are looking for excuses to justify sin.
 
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Not using Scripture to justify sin...It isn't sin since scripture never calls it that...biased translation does. Proper exegesis of scripture doesn't reveal any prohibitions against a loving same sex partnership. I'm sorry, but I'm not trying to justify my homosexuality. I have no reason to. Why??? Because Christ has justified me...He is my vindication.
 
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Doesn't sound like a very good translation to me. The Greek word "porneia" is not that easily translated. The Bible only condemns homosexual rape and homosexual temple prostitution, not loving homosexual relationships.
 
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I doubt you ever translated anything or have any qualifications to judge the translations or knowledge of cultures or customs to judge any translation.


You have managed to judge the quality of this translation.

Have you ever translated anything?
Do you have any qualifications to judge the translations?
Do you have the knowledge of cultures or customs to judge any translation?
 
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Not using Scripture to justify sin...It isn't sin since scripture never calls it that...biased translation does. Proper exegesis of scripture doesn't reveal any prohibitions against a loving same sex partnership. I'm sorry, but I'm not trying to justify my homosexuality. I have no reason to. Why??? Because Christ has justified me...He is my vindication.
Does too. Jesus and the OT only refer to a marriage as being between a man and a woman.

The Ten Commandments forbids adultery.

Homosexual relationships and sex is adultery and scandal against the sacrament of marriage.
 
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You have managed to judge the quality of this translation.

Have you ever translated anything?
Do you have any qualifications to judge the translations?
Do you have the knowledge of cultures or customs to judge any translation?
No and I don't need to, they were already judged by the editor and publisher and the pastors of the congragations that use them.

I would only need qualifications to refute them because their authenticity has already been certified by academia.
 
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Exactly...

Is Homosexual really the most exact translation of the word "Arsenokoites"??? Scholars aren't really sure. Why???

The Greek language (the language of Paul) had very specific terms for different homosexual-acts and persons, but Paul glaringly used none of them and chose to make up his own compound word of man and bed.

Also, how can the translators get Homosexual from the Bible in anyway shape or form since the books of the bible were completed in the first centuries CE and the word Homosexual was not invented until the 19th century.

To the Hebrew mind only two types of homosexuality existed: 1. Pagan Religious Sexual Acts and 2. Acts of Sex or Rape for Domination/Humiliation/Mentoring. Nowhere in the bible can you find condemnation for loving relationships between two people of the same sex. On the contrary, the references to homosexuality in the bible are express in their mention of the above two practices. (i.e. Leviticus=1, Genesis=2, Judges=2, Romans=1, Corinthians=1, Jude=1). No, reference to same sex love at all.

Of course, most will probably write me off as I am a Gay Christian...Yep I'm a Homo and proud of it.
That's correct. Every ancient text I've browsed, not once do they use a loving monogamous relationship in their examples of "homosexual sin". Not once. Never.
 
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