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The only thing that would surprise me less than a another Große Koalition with SPD and CDU would be the CDU allying with the FDP and the AFD, because in germany, the "center" parties always ally with the far right when pushed into a corner.

While completely improbable thst would be a better combo than with Die Linke. So long as the AFD was only a minor party in that coalition. The Left pose the larger risk to German security, economy and culture.
 
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While completely improbable thst would be a better combo than with Die Linke. So long as the AFD was only a minor party in that coalition. The Left pose the larger risk to German security, economy and culture.
It would be a minor party in that coalition, but probably a major party in the next coalition.

As I said, those things have tradition in germany.
 
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I have now voted. I split my vote between SPD and CDU. My hope is for Olaf Scholz as Chancellor in one of three coalition possibilities: Either SPD-CDU-FDP or SPD-Green-FDP or SPD-CDU-Green. I do not want the CDU to be the dominant party as they need an extensive refresh.

The nightmare would be Die Linke-SPD-Green
 
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My hope is for Olaf Scholz as Chancellor in one of three coalition possibilities: Either SPD-CDU-FDP or SPD-Green-FDP or SPD-CDU-Green.
It looks like it's going to be the traffic light:

"SPD leader Olaf Scholz has claimed a mandate to form a government with the Greens and the pro-business FDP, signaling his preferred partners in what would be Germany’s first three-way ruling coalition."

Live: Centre-left SPD edges out Merkel's conservative CDU, preliminary results show

Can the FDP and the Greens agree on politics? And is this better than an SDF & CDU coalition?
 
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It looks like it's going to be the traffic light:

"SPD leader Olaf Scholz has claimed a mandate to form a government with the Greens and the pro-business FDP, signaling his preferred partners in what would be Germany’s first three-way ruling coalition."

Live: Centre-left SPD edges out Merkel's conservative CDU, preliminary results show

Can the FDP and the Greens agree on politics? And is this better than an SDF & CDU coalition?
In general, most parties in Germany can agree with each other, at least to such an extent that a coalition can be formed. The german state goverments are, at the moment, composed out of almost any combination possible. The only party not allowed to the table is the far right AFD, because of a cordon sanitaire agreed upon by all other parties (though the CDU and FDP have been flirting a bit with at least accepting tacit approval of the AFD).

Also, Die Linke would never work together with either the CDU or the FDP.
 
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It looks like it's going to be the traffic light:

"SPD leader Olaf Scholz has claimed a mandate to form a government with the Greens and the pro-business FDP, signaling his preferred partners in what would be Germany’s first three-way ruling coalition."

Live: Centre-left SPD edges out Merkel's conservative CDU, preliminary results show

Can the FDP and the Greens agree on politics? And is this better than an SDF & CDU coalition?

The three parties that gained votes in this election were the SPD, Greens, and FDP so they seem to have a popular mandate and momentum.

Scholz is the runaway favorite for Chancellor according to polling on the German public.

But the key here is now the negotiations between the Greens and the FDP. It appears that they will try and sort something out and then approach the two major parties with their proposal seeing which of them offers the best deal on that. The greens will have to cut their tax and spend ambitions to achieve this and the FDP is going to have to offer something concrete on the environment. Germany may lose its unlimited speed limit for example and may have to introduce some kind of carbon tax plan which penalizes industries that do not make the shift. Maybe the coal industry may have to close sooner rather than later. The FDP clearly wants the Finance Ministry and the Greens are a natural choice for the Foreign ministry. Both parties cannot take forever on this as the CDU and SPD could decide to bypass them entirely if their proposal is too extreme by uniting with each other afterall.

Neither Scholz nor Laschet appears to want to be in coalition with each other. The SPD has resented the CDUs leading role here for years. Also, the decline in the CDU vote despite a strong association with CDU policies in the country as a whole is a clear message that a lot of natural CDU voters think it is time for this party to have a reboot after the long period of power they enjoyed during the Merkel years.
 
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In general, most parties in Germany can agree with each other, at least to such an extent that a coalition can be formed. The german state goverments are, at the moment, composed out of almost any combination possible. The only party not allowed to the table is the far right AFD, because of a cordon sanitaire agreed upon by all other parties (though the CDU and FDP have been flirting a bit with at least accepting tacit approval of the AFD).

Also, Die Linke would never work together with either the CDU or the FDP.

Die Linke is as dead as the old East Germany and Soviet Communism - surely, after this election?

CDU + FDP + AFD <> 50% so no possibility of a coalition even if the CDU and FDP wanted to do that. There is no evidence that they do want this.
 
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Die Linke is as dead as the old East Germany and Soviet Communism - surely, after this election?
They might come back after the AFD self-destructs, mostly of a party of protest voters. Just like it used to be.

Die Linke is still leading in the state of Thuringia and a factor in some other state governments. I wouldn't call that "dead".
 
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