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I don't mean to be offensive, but do you know how and what it means to be saved?

Apparently I don't. Right now I can't worry about this stuff its giving me a headache, im very depressed today, I have to take care of my grandma I am not going to worry about my feelings right now as taking care of my grandma is important right now.
 
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being an outcast sucks. I don't know why the other outcasts didn't accept you either, but I guess that sort of thing happens. I don't really see the problem with enjoying anime and gaming, to be honest, as long as you don't worship it as an idol, or take its teachings to be above those of God. I wish I enjoyed it more. I only watch my brother play video games, I don't play them myself, and I watch anime too. I don't see the difference between entertainment from video games and anime versus Hollywood (Glee club anyone?). I find hollywood far more offensive overall to the sufferings of others and the Christian faith than anime, for the most part. Reading in between the lines, my guess is that the death of your dad forced you to not only experience the loss of someone close to you, but for you to also seriously consider what will happen to you someday, which is heaven or hell. I think your fear of hell has gotten to the point where it is crippling your life. Some of these things that you are asking for are a combination of needing more discipline, and needing to genuinely ask God to change you. I don't think I have much of a problem with liking Jesus, but sometimes I struggle more with my love of God the father. I've been praying for God to put love in my heart for him the past couple of months, and I think it has been making my fear slightly less severe and has worked, so I recommend that you do the same. It sounds like you are asking for a mentor. I recommend that you periodically and/or constantly talk to the chaplains on this website for help, along with a pastor in a church near you, and also talk to your brother and cousin more about Christ. If your two friends are going to distance themselves from you, then you might as well get closer to your brother and your cousin. There was a week in my life where, because of psychosis, I really thought I was going to go to hell when I died. It really made me think about how stupid it is to walk away from the one faith that can save you, or to not take Christianity seriously, because you only get one chance which is this life, and it forced me to finally admit to myself that I was filled with sin. I don't think admitting to your sin in your life is a problem like it was for me though. Anyways, I'm glad you have a kitten. That should help with some of your loneliness. I think right now you are too afraid of death to even see straight. I've spent the last year so afraid of death that I can't get a driver's license. I always freeze when I'm behind the wheel. The only thing that really helped me get over the fear was think about the people I loved, that Jesus loves me (and everyone else too), and to understand rather than just knowing that everyone dies eventually for one reason or another. I think I understand what you are talking about with constantly sinning. I'm constantly having trouble using the word, "God" or, "Jesus" as a swear word. I keep praying for forgiveness on it and to stop, but then I just keep doing it. I think I've been doing it less, overall, but I still do it from time to time when I'm surprised or distracted. I think the battle starts in the heart, and then progresses to the mind, and then goes outward from there. God controls the heart, but I think we control the mind.
Proverbs 21:1
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The king’s heart is a stream of water in the hand of the LORD; he turns it wherever he will.

Colossians 3:15
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And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful.

2 Corinthians 10:5

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We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,

I think you need to learn DISCIPLINE in order to become a better disciple. Discipline is hard, but it is part of the calling. I think you also need to learn to TRUST in God. Yes, trust. You need to trust that once you pray for God to do something for you, assuming it lines up with his will, that it will be done.

Philippians 4:6-7
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6do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.


Romans 12:2
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Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect.

1 Timothy 4:7
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Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness;

1 Corinthians 9:24-27
24Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. 25Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. 27But I discipline my body and keep it under control,b lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.

2 Timothy 1:7
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for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.

You were talking about how you constantly are tempted and sin. While we strive to be perfect as Christians, only Christ was perfect. Even Paul had a thorn in his flesh.

2 Corinthians 12:7
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So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited.

Matthew 5:48
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You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

James 3:2
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For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.


I think the reason for your suffering as a Christian, and for other Christians also, is because, I think, can be a purifying process.

Romans 5:3-5
3Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Malachi 3:3
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He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, and they will bring offerings in righteousness to the LORD.
 
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I honestly thought getting a kitten would ease my lonliness, but the more it grows, the more I feel it's a chore and not something to be enjoyed, loved, cared for. I'm seroiusly having feelings of taking it back, I know this is a life and this isn't something I should probably be thinking but right now its 5 am, i can't sleep, my kitten is getting too fat, I dont know how to take care of it, I can't take care of myself properly, my older cat is furious because of the kitten now. She's constantly swatting, growling at the kitten. It seems like any decision I make is the wrong one. What is happening to me. I'm falling to pieces. I tried reading the bible earlier and i might as well have tried reading it in a completely different language. I am seroiusly debating if I ever was saved to begin with. I'm going out of my mind I dont know what to do, I am going crazy. maybe i just need to force myself to do God's bidding I dont know. I dont know how to get discipline. I'm getting fatter and fatter each day, I can't control how I eat, what I eat, I don't excersize I can't stand going out, I can't motivate myself to do much of anything anymore. I had to fight myself just to wash clothes yesturday. I go to watch over my grandma but again it feels more like a chore than something I want to do out of love, dont get me wrong though at first I did it out of love but the longer this goes on its more of chore than anything else. I can't think right now, can't sleep im so tired, im worried about the kitten, my family my life and I have no escape from any of it. My video games are my only escape, yet even that is becoming more of a chore than a pleasure. Nothing brings me pleasure anymore. Everything is tedium, nothing interests me, I can't sit still in church, or at home, I can't read without fidgeting and having to go do something else, or move around. It's getting worse, it's driving me crazy.
 
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Well if you are going to return the kitten, the sooner you do it, the better, because cats have a much harder time getting adopted than kittens do. Discipline is difficult to learn, to be honest. I learned it by learning the piano at a young age. It just carried over to the rest of my life. I'm having trouble with eating too, cuz I take a medication that causes weight gain. I can't get myself to exercise either. So far I'm not obese yet, but I admit food is a struggle for me too. I would recommend gum or something incredibly low calorie to snack on, like popcorn, and vegetables. And drink LOTS of water. Water makes you feel fuller, and sometimes the body, while craving water, will instead get you to eat watery foods instead. I would definitely get gum, but I still don't even have a driver's license yet, I'm going to be taking a driving test for the fifth time this upcoming Wednesday. It's hard to have motivation when you don't know what you are living for. If you live for Christ, then that is motivation to get your life together. Sometimes peer pressure helps to get things together, if it is positive peer pressure. It sounds like the love you have for your grandma gave you the motivation to do something. :) I think your motivation was love, or else you simply would not have bothered. You may have been the reluctant son, and said in your heart that you wouldn't, but when push came to shove, you did visit your grandma.

Matthew 21:28-31
The Parable of the Two Sons
28“What do you think? A man had two sons. And he went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work in the vineyard today.’ 29And he answered, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he changed his mind and went. 30And he went to the other son and said the same. And he answered, ‘I go, sir,’ but did not go. 31Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you.

Maybe you should do an online bible study? Or you could just ask the chaplains what each of the verses mean. There is a subforum on this website where you can ask the chaplains anything. You can also private message them and they will get back to you. Maybe you can ask under the subforum about scriptures as well. I agree, sometimes the Bible is hard to understand. There are still parables that I don't understand. I've looked up online what they are supposed to mean, but sometimes I am just simply not sure. It's difficult to think without sleep, I agree. I feel for you. When I first started going on SSI I felt that same feeling of there being no escape. I went on a heavy dosage of multiple antidepressants, and would just listen to music nonstop to drown out the emotional pain I felt from failing out of the university I was going to. I have just come to accept that if I just become more loving towards the people in my life and learn to suffer as so many other people also do, that I should be able to get through this life. Despite this life seeming like it draws on forever, I realize that I'm already a quarter way through my life or more, and there is eventual release from this life, one way or another. But now I have hopes of going back to school and eventually getting a job. I don't know how you would be able to go back to school with severe ADHD though. The condition I have can be controlled through medicine, but while I know there are pills for ADHD, I've never had ADHD, and I don't know if any of the medications work on you. Eventually you will escape this life when you die. That's what I tell myself anyways. That's unfortunate that the video games aren't enough to distract you anymore. I was hoping that maybe you could just enjoy doing those for the rest of your life. For me I felt a lot of my pleasure was disappearing, until I kept praying for God to make me a more loving person, especially towards the people that already love me. It has overall given me more pleasure than anything else. I realized that I spent so much time trying to make other people love me, that my own love was somewhat shallow. But really, life is worth nothing without loving God and the people that already love you. Hell, as a Christian you're even supposed to love your enemies and pray for them.

1 Corinthians 13
The Way of Love
1If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned,a but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;b 6it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
13So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.


Being unable to sit still might be because you have ADHD and want to accomplish something with your life. Have you considered taking up a hobby and spending more time with your cousin and brother if you can? I don't know a cure for your restlessness though, I think it might stem from feeling like you lack a sense of purpose. But remember, our only purpose in life is to follow Christ/God.

Ecclesiastes 12:8-14
8Vanityb of vanities, says the Preacher; all is vanity. Fear God and Keep His Commandments
9Besides being wise, the Preacher also taught the people knowledge, weighing and studying and arranging many proverbs with great care. 10The Preacher sought to find words of delight, and uprightly he wrote words of truth.
11The words of the wise are like goads, and like nails firmly fixed are the collected sayings; they are given by one Shepherd. 12My son, beware of anything beyond these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.c 14For God will bring every deed into judgment, withd every secret thing, whether good or evil.



here is the ask a chaplain link
http://www.christianforums.com/f792/

and here is a link to where you can ask for help in understanding scriptures better
http://www.christianforums.com/f804/

the forum on deeper fellowship might help too
http://www.christianforums.com/f136/
 
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This is getting to long to respond to so I'll put an abridged version.

Yeah, our exchange is getting rather...expansive. :)

I don't mean to be offensive, but do you know how and what it means to be saved?
Apparently I don't. Right now I can't worry about this stuff its giving me a headache, im very depressed today, I have to take care of my grandma I am not going to worry about my feelings right now as taking care of my grandma is important right now.

Yes, taking care of your grandma is important. But I think you're using her as an excuse to dodge a discussion that could actually help you. I didn't write all that I did because I had nothing better to do. I wrote to you because the things I shared with you touch on the foundation of your relationship with God. If the foundation is properly laid, what is built upon it will be stable and strong.

It seems pretty clear to me that the devil has some strongholds in your life. He has been able to establish these strongholds in your mind and heart, I believe, in large part because you don't have a clear grasp of the basic truths of being a disciple of Christ. In fact, I'm not sure you understand what salvation is, how it is obtained, and what salvation does to you spiritually. If you are ignorant of these things, however, it is going to be quite impossible to walk with God and experience the benefits of doing so.

I'm willing to talk with you and help you get things straight but it seems that you just want God to give you an instant make-over and free you from all that troubles you. This isn't going to happen. God uses struggle and trouble to refine, teach and strengthen us. Instead of removing the storms, He walks us through them. He's waiting to begin this process with you, but despite all your proclamations of wanting things to be different, you are still resisting His way.

I have met so many people on this site who are in despair and desperate for change. Unfortunately, when I talk with them about how to get free of the darkness they're in, they shrink back. They want sympathy and an easy way out, not the truth. They don't want to become lovers of God and students of His Word; they just want Him to erase all their problems in an instant. But God's help is found in knowing and loving Him. God helps us by giving us of Himself. So anyone who is coming to God for aid is, whether they realize it or not, asking to go deeper with Him.

I have noticed too that many of the people who come to this site for spiritual advice and help have grown preoccupied with their unhappiness. Oh, they protest and complain about how miserable they are, but when they are presented with a way out, they simply respond with another description of how terrible their life is. They have become so preoccupied with their misery, it has so filled their vision, that they can see nothing else - not even the way out. This is how we all are, though. The more we focus on a particular thing, the more of our mind and heart it obtains. This is why it is so vital for those who want to be free of the darkness to look away from it to the light of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

Selah.
 
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Yeah, our exchange is getting rather...expansive. :)



Yes, taking care of your grandma is important. But I think you're using her as an excuse to dodge a discussion that could actually help you. I didn't write all that I did because I had nothing better to do. I wrote to you because the things I shared with you touch on the foundation of your relationship with God. If the foundation is properly laid, what is built upon it will be stable and strong.

It seems pretty clear to me that the devil has some strongholds in your life. He has been able to establish these strongholds in your mind and heart, I believe, in large part because you don't have a clear grasp of the basic truths of being a disciple of Christ. In fact, I'm not sure you understand what salvation is, how it is obtained, and what salvation does to you spiritually. If you are ignorant of these things, however, it is going to be quite impossible to walk with God and experience the benefits of doing so.

I'm willing to talk with you and help you get things straight but it seems that you just want God to give you an instant make-over and free you from all that troubles you. This isn't going to happen. God uses struggle and trouble to refine, teach and strengthen us. Instead of removing the storms, He walks us through them. He's waiting to begin this process with you, but despite all your proclamations of wanting things to be different, you are still resisting His way.

I have met so many people on this site who are in despair and desperate for change. Unfortunately, when I talk with them about how to get free of the darkness they're in, they shrink back. They want sympathy and an easy way out, not the truth. They don't want to become lovers of God and students of His Word; they just want Him to erase all their problems in an instant. But God's help is found in knowing and loving Him. God helps us by giving us of Himself. So anyone who is coming to God for aid is, whether they realize it or not, asking to go deeper with Him.

I have noticed too that many of the people who come to this site for spiritual advice and help have grown preoccupied with their unhappiness. Oh, they protest and complain about how miserable they are, but when they are presented with a way out, they simply respond with another description of how terrible their life is. They have become so preoccupied with their misery, it has so filled their vision, that they can see nothing else - not even the way out. This is how we all are, though. The more we focus on a particular thing, the more of our mind and heart it obtains. This is why it is so vital for those who want to be free of the darkness to look away from it to the light of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

Selah.


Don't misundestand why I don't want to continue the discussion. I'm overwhelmed with so many things that I've gotten to the point where I'm exhausted trying to replay to messages of that length. My brain literally hurts when attempting to clarify things, and correct misunderstandings. I would have been far more willing to discuss this face to face but doing so over a thread is proving very difficult for me right now. I have too many things weighing on my mind and I only had 2 hours of sleep last night and I can't answer anything right now I'm oto tired.
 
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