New Statement of Purpose for the forum

[A New Dawn]

I never implied that anyone is a witch, nor have I accused anyone of being one by bringing that passage up. All I have stated is what God says Himself:

When men tell you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living? Isaiah 8:19

Why can I not say that consulting dead guys is evil anymore, when God said so Himself? Just because it is offensive to some does not mean that you have to sacrifice the TRUTH, for the sake of unity. Calling homosexuality a "sin" is offensive to some here, should we also stop saying such words?

You are permitted to discuss your beliefs on the subject as long as it is done with respect and as long as you don't state or imply that anyone is not a Christian. Those are the rules. Always have been.

 

[Lion King]

You are permitted to discuss your beliefs on the subject as long as it is done with respect and as long as you don't state or imply that anyone is not a Christian. Those are the rules. Always have been.

Am I allowed to say that consulting DEAD people is EVIL before the LORD?

 

[A New Dawn]

Am I allowed to say that consulting DEAD people is EVIL before the LORD?

What would be your purpose for doing so????????????

How are you defining "consulting"? Do you think they hold seances, or something?

 

[Lion King]

What would be your purpose for doing so????????????

How are you defining "consulting"? Do you think they hold seances, or something?

What would be my purpose for saying so? Forgive me, but are you pulling my leg? I mean, this is a Mariology section, after all, where some think it's perfectly encouraged by the Scriptures to ask dead people (Mary and the rest of the saints) for favors.

So, is telling someone that contacting dead people is EVIL before God, prohibited on CF?

PS. I define consulting as contacting the dead. Simples.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

John teaches us "test the spirits", not "have a testy spirit".

Never looked at it that way.
I have been known to be somewhat testy on CF, but I still fell I need to work the way I post on it, especially the GT board. No wonder I have such few friends

Rotherham) 1 John 4:1 Beloved! not in every spirit believe ye, but test the spirits, whether they are of God;
because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Rotherham) Revelation 16:14 for they are spirits of demons doing signs, which are to go forth unto the kings of the whole habitable land,
to gather them together unto the battle of the great day of God the Almighty.--


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[A New Dawn]

What would be my purpose for saying so? Forgive me, but are you pulling my leg? I mean, this is a Mariology section, after all, where some think it's perfectly encouraged by the Scriptures to ask dead people (Mary and the rest of the saints) for favors.

So, is telling someone that contacting dead people is EVIL before God, prohibited on CF?

PS. I define consulting as contacting the dead. Simples.

Here is my answer from above.

You are permitted to discuss your beliefs on the subject as long as it is done with respect and as long as you don't state or imply that anyone is not a Christian. Those are the rules. Always have been.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

So, can I still refer to these early-church guys (can't say fathers..they ain't my fathers) as dead? Yes or No?

For example:

-Can I say that consulting the dead on behalf of the living is prohibited by God? Or that talking to dead people is evil?

Using "Early Church Fathers" is an identifier of a group. When I talk about the US President(s), past and present, I use that term as an "identifier"; I'm Canadian, they are not MY Presidents.

Using the term ECF neither states nor implies that you accept their teachings, nor does it mean that they are "your" fathers. What it does do is let's every one know exactly who you are talking about; it gives context to one's post.

Another thing that using ECF does is show respect to those who do hold their teachings and traditions in high esteem; even when one may not agree with those teachings and traditions. If one feels the need to show disrespect to others for their beliefs and practices, then one should not be posting here at CF; respect does not imply acceptance.

Likewise, I personally see no reason to call them dead because we know that they are certainly no longer walking among us physically in this life. (If they were one would have to call them "really old guys".

What would be my purpose for saying so? Forgive me, but are you pulling my leg? I mean, this is a Mariology section, after all, where some think it's perfectly encouraged by the Scriptures to ask dead people (Mary and the rest of the saints) for favors.

So, is telling someone that contacting dead people is EVIL before God, prohibited on CF?

PS. I define consulting as contacting the dead. Simples.

That would depend on how one states such.

For example, there would be no problem stating that "I believe that _______________ is wrong because _______________." Such is OK and good academic form when kept impersonal and proof texts and/or logical explanations of one's position are offered.

If you reply to a post stating "You (your Church, denomination etc.) are (wrong, sinning, evil, heretical) because you __________________". This is a flame, and a violation of the rules (not just in M+H, but in any forum here at CF.

 

[Standing Up]

What would be your purpose for doing so????????????

How are you defining "consulting"? Do you think they hold seances, or something?

Seances are like prayering to the dead?