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CuriousAtheist

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I've been active in religious sites for a few years now. When I first started, I listen to both sides, and deemed atheism the logical choice. Times has passed, and now I only listen to the atheist's side. Well, I came here to hear the theism side. I'm not here to debate, it even says I'm not allowed to debate here, but just to understand your side of it.

Sorry if this seems too much like a debate starter, but why do you believe? What evidence have you found to lead you to the conclusion that there must be a god? Looking forward to your replies.
 

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Welcome!

I feel like a broken record sometimes repeating this so often, but you are not the first to ask similar questions, so I'll just share a copy and paste of an older post of mine (some of which may be relevant to your question and some not). I hope you don't mind.

My advice to you:
I will post a few things that it certainly wouldn't hurt for you to read that explain the Christian faith fairly well.
What Is Most Important
The One
Introduction to the Bible
Excerpts from the Orthodox Church by Bishop Kallistos Ware (part 1)
http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/history_timothy_ware_2.htm (part 2)
P r a y e r

I am a firm believer that one can't know what the faith is about truly unless they come and see it for themselves. You must visit a church to learn about the faith. Visiting doesn't lock one into becoming a Christian. I've never yet been to an Orthodox Church where I've seen anyone harassed and hounded into becoming a Christian- and even if you want to become a Christian you would have to be catechized. At the very least, you'd have an interesting cultural experience. Pascha is coming up and you will find that outside of Orthodox Christianity, nobody even comes close to celebrating Pascha (Easter) like we do. It's a great time to visit.

Orthodoxy in America
 
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How does on "know" that what they believe is true is not an exercise in self-delusion? Why believe if there is a real possibility the belief may be in whole or in part false?

If a person believes they cannot trust to luck or speculation or a working hypothesis they would appear to be a sniveling coward, afraid of his or her own shadow. They could not sit in a chair unless they saw it used by a person of similar size and weight. How could they open any envelope because they do not know it does not contain weaponized anthrax.

No the real question is why trust in the God of the Bible, rather than godlessness. And the answer is simple, given what we know or think we know, trusting in the God of the bible seems like the best we can do. Have lots of people trusted in "gods" that did not exist? Yes, but that does not demonstrate no god exists. Have people done horrible things in the name of God? Yes. One of my favorite quotations is, " Man has little to fear in what men do in the name of evil, but God help us from what men do in the name of good." But the problem with this condemnation of belief in God is that those who did evil in the sight of men in the name of God, might have been hypocrites, pretenders, folks that claim to be godly, but inside are ravenous wolfs.
 
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Like most things in life, I didn't sit down, carefully collect little piles of evidence, and then evaluate them according to some set of carefully constructed rules. I took experiences as they came, and found that I not only believed in the God of the bible but was unable not to do so.
 
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i have never heard it put this way before, but that is my experience as well--I BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE I AM "UNABLE NOT TO DO SO".

Thanks for the insight!

ABBA'S fool,
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but why do you believe? What evidence have you found to lead you to the conclusion that there must be a god? Looking forward to your replies.

Anyone looking to find belief in God can ask Him for the strength/faith to start a relationship with Him. He will Tailor an experience to your life and send you the Holy Spirit to help you first believe, and then maintain a relationship with Him.. If in fact that is what you heart wants.

You will not be able to reason or deduce their is a God by using your current system of thought. Atheism is a type of religion, one built in such away as to put barriers between you and God. This was accomplished by constructing a line of reasoning, and qualifying barriers that cannot be met by the nature of God. Now because everything else seems to fit, or can be made to fit in the atheistic line of reasoning, and God does not, God to the Atheist can be discarded..

If you are truly searching for God Do not Approach Him as you would, another unverified variable. Search for Him as a lost Child would search for a parent in a large crowd. Otherwise you will find what you expected you'd find.
 
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Well, first of all, faith is a gift. People are either born with it or not. Some believe any commercial. Others doubt all, even the truth. I happened to be a type that believes, so it's easy to convince me. You are the type that don't (I guess), so it will be hard to convince you with the same evidence.

There is lots of evidence (unless you think that all people are lying) about some other world out there (spiritual, psychic..whatever). There are supernatural happenings (just go to one of the false revival meetings and you will see weird manisfestations) That should make one wonder: what IS that? Why is that possible? How is that possible?
THere are many people who claim to travel outside of body and see things that later are verified to be true (unless you think all those are lying)

So it's there... The question is: WHAT IS IT? Some world other than the one we know and see? God? Spirits? Something else?

Well, sometimes God talks to me through this one person. And if you ask me how I know that, it's because the person tells me stuff that is way to strange for him to say. And it's not just any stuff, it's something that answers my inner questions, it's like he read my mind. Sometimes it's so encouraging as though he knows that I am down (inside). And sometimes this person would say something to me and then say: who said that?

So God speaks through people. It's like He inhabits the body (or something) and starts speaking. Although, sometimes this person would say one sentence from himself (for example, analyzing what he just said and why) and then the next minute he would say a message from God (although he doesn't always think that it is, he thinks it's him speaking to me.)And I tell him: but why in the world would you say this or that to me? He would say: I don't know, but there must be a reason. I would say: but you responded to my thoughts... He thinks it's a coincidence. Well, this coincidence coincidentially keeps happening all the time for a few months now...

And if this would help you in any way, and if you are curious as to what kinds of things this person is saying to me, let me know and I can pm them to you...
 
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