The topic was insects and we all know they are limited by oxygen to air ratio. They don't have lungs with a large surface area to gas exchange with, they have no way to increase oxygen levels in their blood.
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Elephants and mice breathe the same atmosphere and have the same access to food, so why are their sizes so different?
The topic was insects and we all know they are limited by oxygen to air ratio. They don't have lungs with a large surface area to gas exchange with, they have no way to increase oxygen levels in their blood.
So why are elephants and mice different sizes? Here is what you said before:
"Larger, smaller, that's just scaling due to available fuel, not what I would call evolution."
So how do you explain why mice and elephants are different sizes?
The original kinds were created that way, and the ones remaining have adapted to suite their current environments.
The evidence is all around you, you just need to open your eyes and look.
You are still missing the point.
You have not done the experiments. You have not seen the evidence. You have to either believe what other people tell you, or not believe. You could do the experiments yourself, perhaps, but you haven't, and you won't, just like the rest of us.
So for the vast majority of people in the world, science is still a belief system. Unless you do the research yourself, you are believing in somebody.
nuttypiglet said:A friend of mine has been collecting fossils for many years and I went with him a few years ago to lyme regis on the english coast. Lots of ammonites there from millions of years ago. Strange thing tho, my friend was showing me shells further up the strata saying "this is what the ammonites evolved into". Couldn't see it myself, I saw it as a huge assumption. It's a bit like digging up a coin from 10 metres, then a pot from 5 metres and saying "Oh look, the pot is newer, the coin is older, so the coin obviously evolved into the pot". The differences were just too great, nothing I saw showed a gradual transition.
I have another friend who studies insects, and I was amazed when he showed me a picture of a dragonfly from millions of years ago. Massive in size compared to today, but that's explained by higher oxygen levels. However, it looks the same. What happened to its evolution? Millions of years and all it has done is shrunk, but that's not evolution, that's limitation due to air quality.I have a friend that is a theologian too. He showed me an original KJV 1611 Bible.
lasthero said:Coins and pots don't reproduce. Your analogy fails at the most basic level.
It doesn't look the same. It's bigger.
No, it's evolution. And it's not 'air quality', it's oxygen content.
What do you think evolution is?Larger, smaller, that's just scaling due to available fuel, not what I would call evolution. Look, the insect has ALWAYS been limited in growth by oxygen availability, even millions of years ago. Today they are smaller due to lower oxygen. What evolved to change anything? nothing. This restriction has always existed. Is that the best argument you can offer?
Does creationism really say that god adds a new equine species every 12 million years?
Is this really the pattern of special creation?
Another imaginary picture made up of bones dug up who knows where and then placed in a neat little imaginary evolution tree based one similarities. I suppose this is the sort of brain washing we see in schools today.
Satan will surface with a lie if he has to -- especially if the lie is a scientific one.What are you babbling about?
So why are elephants and mice different sizes? Here is what you said before:
"Larger, smaller, that's just scaling due to available fuel, not what I would call evolution."
So how do you explain why mice and elephants are different sizes?
Satan will surface with a lie if he has to -- especially if the lie is a scientific one.
He doesn't care if the lie will be caught later ... as long as it keeps the tenor of evolution moving forward in the public's eye.
Thus when Haeckel's drawings were exposed as a fake, it was no big deal.
The damage had already been done as far as the general public was concerned.
the discussion was insects so why are you adding oranges to apples now?
been done
You mean religious one -- the Bible says he masquerades as an Angel of Light; not so much as a man in a lab coat.
What happened, AV? Got bored with reimagining God in your own image so you've moved on to Satan?
No, it was no big deal because you don't understand the point of it... but that's ok, AV.
And yet you continue to do the damage...
Lucifer is the Father of lies and deception, he managed to convince Eve to fall from God and then trick her to do the same to Adam.
A third of the Angels are with him, that's quite an army whispering into the ears of the evols.
Without the shield of Christ, we are easy targets.
Look at what he did to Job, and he didn't appear as an Angel of light, he was invisible. I think you greatly underestimate the evil in this world.
Another imaginary picture made up of bones dug up who knows where and then placed in a neat little imaginary evolution tree based one similarities. I suppose this is the sort of brain washing we see in schools today.
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