Nevada Strip Club Owner Big Trump Supporter: Evangelicals Support Nevadan

[Mountainmanbob]

...and in this case you like the pimp over the school teacher?
tulc(is just making sure that's Phil 1:21's position)

I hope you're not judging the pimp now are you?

For I have heard that the ones on the left do not do that?

Or is it one of those we make the rules up and change them daily?

Just curious up top the mountain?

Do what I say not what I do
Works best with little kids.


M-Bob

 

[Jamsie]

I hope you're not judging the pimp now are you?
For I have heard that the ones on the left do not do that?
Or is it one of those we make the rules up and change them daily?
Just curious up top the mountain?
Do what I say not what I do
Works best with little kids.
M-Bob

Perhaps even "little kids" understand that when one votes for one candidate over another that a "judgement" has been made. What you refer to as a judgement, in the pejorative sense, is something one does on a daily basis...to call someone who lies a liar or an adulterer an adulterer or a racist a racist is not a judgement but an acknowledgement of the facts. On the other hand to dismiss character issues is simply to abdicate responsibility and Christian "values".

 

[tulc]

I hope you're not judging the pimp now are you?

hmmm...I ask why people think the pimp/brothel owner is a better candidate then the school teacher and people tell me it's because they don't think she'll

support freedom to practice traditional Christianity

when I then ask "Do you have proof she's going to do that?" I'm told basically it's because she's a Democrat. to which Phil 1:21 chimed in:

Elections, for me, always seem to come down to who I dislike the least.

which led me to ask him:

...and in this case you like the pimp over the school teacher?

in all that, the one thing that seems to be consistent isn't "is tulc judging the pimp?" What's consistent is some Republicans will pick a pimp, serial adulterers or even pedophiles over anyone/anything as long as they have an "R" after their name.

For I have heard that the ones on the left do not do that?

who told you that? Most liberals I know believe what a person does tends to show who they are rather then what they say.

Or is it one of those we make the rules up and change them daily?

since I've never heard that was a requirement for being a liberal I'm pretty sure you got some bad information somewhere along the line. It might help to figure out what a liberal believes by asking the specific liberal what they believe rather then just assuming you already know?

Just curious up top the mountain?

I'm glad I could clear that up for you.

Do what I say not what I do

...wow...you seem to have revealed the motto for some of the Republican base: President Trump tells them what to do and they do it. No matter how little he practices what he preaches.

Works best with little kids.

And apparently some Republicans.

M-Bob

tulc(is enjoying a great cup of coffee from beans roasted by his grandkid) [/quote][/QUOTE]

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Perhaps even "little kids" understand that when one votes for one candidate over another that a "judgement" has been made. What you refer to as a judgement, in the pejorative sense, is something one does on a daily basis...to call someone who lies a liar or an adulterer an adulterer or a racist a racist is not a judgement but an acknowledgement of the facts. On the other hand to dismiss character issues is simply to abdicate responsibility and Christian "values".

It is truly ironic how the Religious Right conservatives are now politically supporting an adulterous philander and well documented liar like Trump and a strip club/brothels owner like Dennis Hof when these same evangelical Christians became morally unhinged over Bill Clinton's sexual depravity and sexual scandals while he was still the president. It's also ironic just how selective these particular Christians have become with which sexual sins they will be morally indignant about since they support Trump for their president. However, I think we can all rest assured that once Trump is no longer the president and he has finally dropped all the pretenses of his political facade to appease his evangelical supporters, all the moral indignation over a president's immoral behavior and adulterous philandering will make a stunning comeback. I think this comeback will come even more swiftly and widespread among conservatives if the next president just happens to be a liberal Democrat.

I think we both can imagine the public outcry of moral indignation from evangelical conservative Christians if a liberal in former President Obama's presidency had owned a strip club and brothels and this man was running for the Nevada legislature or any other state legislature for that matter.

 

[JackRT]

I think we both can imagine the public outcry of moral indignation from evangelical conservative Christians if a liberal in former President Obama's presidency had owned a strip club and brothels and this man was running for the Nevada legislature or any other state legislature for that matter.

The moral outrage would have been stupendous.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

The moral outrage would have been stupendous.

Yes, it would have been. It would have been the same kind of sanctimonious moral indignation if former President Obama had demonstrated even the slightest implication of immoral behavior as Donald Trump has repeatedly demonstrated before and after he was elected president.

In fact, we would have never heard the end of it if Obama had been in his third marriage to his former mistress or if he had paid off a inappropriate content star to silence her about their affair or if he had fathered five children with three different women or if he had bragged about groping women and forcing himself on those women or if he had bragged about watching teenage girls getting undressed during a beauty pageant or if he had joked about dating his daughter if she wasn't his daughter or if he had agreed with Howard Stern on television that one of his daughters was a 'piece of [insert profane word]'.

I don't think conservative evangelical Christians would have been so dewy-eyed if Obama had hugged the American flag for a photo-op or if he had insulted Senator John McCain's military service by saying he liked people who weren't captured. I'm also confident that they would have been indignant if he had said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters" or if he had clearly mocked a disabled reporter during one of his public speeches.

I think we can be assured that their moral indignation and public outrage would have rivaled their moral indignation and public outrage over Bill Clinton's sexual immorality and sexual scandals if Barack Obama had demonstrated the same kind of immoral behavior as Trump has demonstrated.

 

[ubicaritas]

When I vote I choose the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is the one who will use his/her political influence to support freedom to practice traditional Christianity. I would rather a bad man that supported this than a good man who opposed it.

"Traditional Christianity" being more important than anything else. I think that says alot how bankrupt Christianity has become for many American Christians. There is no sense of social responsibility.

 

[creslaw]

"Traditional Christianity" being more important than anything else. I think that says alot how bankrupt Christianity has become for many American Christians. There is no sense of social responsibility.

Actually I referred to the freedom to practice traditional Christianity.

 

[ubicaritas]

Actually I referred to the freedom to practice traditional Christianity.

You've got that. What you shouldn't have is your religion as the state religion.

 

[creslaw]

You've got that. What you shouldn't have is your religion as the state religion.

No, we haven't ... just ask Aaron Klein, Barronelle Stutzman, Elaine Huguenin, ...

I never mentioned "state religion".

 

[ubicaritas]

No, we haven't ... just ask Aaron Klein, Barronelle Stutzman, Elaine Huguenin, ...

I never mentioned "state religion".

Oh, you mean the freedom to discriminate underneath a veneer of religious rhetoric. That's effective establishment.

 

[creslaw]

Oh, you mean the freedom to discriminate underneath a veneer of religious rhetoric. That's effective establishment.

I hope I will never be as insulting as to disparage your sincerely held religious beliefs as "religious rhetoric".

 

[ubicaritas]

I hope I will never be as insulting as to disparage your sincerely held religious beliefs as "religious rhetoric".

I'm not a snowflake, unlike the crybullies of the right. Your opinion of my religion has zero impact on me. But when your co-religionists discriminate against people like my friends, yes, I will take offense and call out bigotry when I see it.

 

[creslaw]

I'm not a snowflake, unlike the crybullies of the right. Your opinion of my religion has zero impact on me.

You are just digging a bigger hole ... "crybullies of the right"? ... we are talking about what SCOTUS called "sincere Christian beliefs".

 

[ubicaritas]

You are just digging a bigger hole ... "crybullies of the right"? ... we are talking about what SCOTUS called "sincere Christian beliefs".

A kangaroo court loaded with sympathizers for Christian bullies.

 

[creslaw]

A kangaroo court loaded with sympathizers for Christian bullies.

Now they are "Christian bullies"? ... ok, time to put you on ignore until you calm down and regain a sense of respect for the opinions & beliefs of others.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

But when your co-religionists discriminate against people like my friends,

I share your sentiment when it concerns my gay friends too. I hate how my gay friends are looked down upon by the majority of evangelical Christians they encounter. I also hate it how my gay friends have been disowned and rejected by their evangelical Christian family because they are gay.

 

[jazzflower92]

A kangaroo court loaded with sympathizers for Christian bullies.

Call them bullies would be wrong, just as saying the people supporting this pimp.