Netanyahu: Iran 'will pay' for its attack

[Robban]

Yes but also by modern secular western societies as well. Theres some elements of Viking beliefs coming in but also New Age Mysticism such as crystals, Moon and Sun worship and making the earths elements like spirits of gods. Even Hollywood and celebs become godlike and worshipped and if you look at their events you see all the trappings of idol worship.

Christ also acknowledges their existence as false prophets. He knew there would be copycats and warned us. Todays gods are very cunning. At least with the old pagan gods you could call them out today. Its just a calved rock. Its an unconscious lump of inanimate material and can do nothing. Look we can even see the atoms and they are not gods lol.

But just like when Abraham was called by the one true God there can only be one God if God is the creator and moral law and truth giver. Without truth and authority the pagan gods begin to compete and undermine each other until there is chaos.

Just like today we know there can only be one truth. Many truths is a logical fallacy. The greatest lie the false gods have manage is to convince people there is no truth in a Post Modernist and relativistic world.

Because no one is sure and everything is acceptable. Hamas and Hezbullah can be rationalised as the victim and doing good and the truth is rationalised as being bad.

How do we measure the truth. Christ told us He is the truth. So we can expose the radical Islamists as evil because their actions don't align with Christs truth. With His 2nd greatest commandment. Which also happens to align with most of our Rights, laws and Declarations.

This is a good point and I didn't think of it in this context. When you take a step back and consider all the religions and ideologies which are so varied that you could get lost in which one to believe in or not. It seems when it comes down to it everything leads to Christ.

As Christ is the truth and the world is for many truths then there will come a showdown between truths until one is left standing. That is the nature of truth as there can only be one truth. So as you stand on that truth and the more the world becomes untruths the more you are in conflict.

Yes as mentioned today there are 100s of ways to pervert Gods truth. The thing with Islam is that it has used an obvious truth to Christians and Jews of the Old Testament GOd and they have percerted it fundementally. Its so obvious.

But it seems in a strange and contradictory way this has aligned with western progressive ideology. So you get Queers for Palestine or students who should know better if they are taught critical thinking, a principle of free thinking are for the extermination of the Jews.

Its this weird amalgamation seem to have one thing in common. They hate the Jews and Christians. I don't think thats a coincident. Which tells me fundementally its a spiritual war. Its coming down to a spiritual battle and its going to increase.

Yeah I have heard this said a lot. Oprah did it, the View women do it, celebs do it while all claiming to be Christians. This is the new truth being pushed. The all encompassing, accepting, equal, diverse, tolerant and lovin melting pot of a new Utopia. Its very powerful as it sort of incorporates a bit of Christianity without the commitment to Christ. He is made into a good man, who teaches good living principles.

Its very cunning. But like you said Christ came to divide and His truth is the only truth and not many truths. But as with truth sooner or later it comes out. If you notice with all these new high priests making these claims that cracks are appearing in their facade. Revelations of dirty deeds and schemes done in secret. Their hypocracy will be exposed. But still they will deny the truth.

I read a similar example though not religious or the church but telling of modern society compared to years ago. At the DNC when the Pledge of Allegiance was being recited most went silent when God is mentioned. That is very telling of the Left today. I did not think it was that ingrained.

But then like if you said that the Woke church and society are pushing that there is no one God or no god at all then they are not going to want to acknowledge the one God their own very nation was based on. Quiet a detachment from the founding principles of the US.

This is part of Post Modernist thinking. There is no objective reality of truth and everything is self referential and created though words. Say it enough, muddy the waters and it becomes true.

Peterson does a good talk on the bible as the pre requisit of truth. That is without God there is no truth and that all truth in literature traces back to the bible.

Yes its almost as if you are not in conflict with these common relative ideologies that something is wrong with your faith. You havn't committed enough. The world is a powerful force and we naturally are tempted to go along as it involves our natural desires. But that is exactly what being Christlike is, conflicting and putting to death our natural desires. That should then put us in conflict with the world.

Yes and this matches the Isalmists ideology that Christ is just a prophet. They are almost helping them spread the ideology. Like I said these ideologies blend into one and even conflict within themselves as they are contradictory to the truth.

But Christ is not just made another prophet in among many truths. There is a conceryed effort to denounce Him. We see this with how even Islam is regarded with more empathy and worth than Christianity.

If you demean a Christian its OK. But if you do the same to a Muslim its Islamaphobia. If a Christian says God created man and women they are a transphobe. But the Woke can attack and destroy a Christian who simple expressed their belief. So ultimately its coming down to a spiritual battle between Christs truth and the worlds.

If you look back we see society was more Christian. As time has gone by God is being rejected. Things have become more relative. Christians always objected as society has become more secular. First it was the desolution of marriage. Well even before that things were becoming more progressive.

But as time has gone by we have seen the gradual devaluing of God and His moral laws. Which have been replaced with many different meanings and values. But primarily they oppose the one true God in Christ.

So it stands to reason that the more the world becomes Godless the more this will conflict with Christians. If the current trend keeps going we should see increased persecutions of Christians but also the rising of great Christians and works that will both amaze and antagonise the world.

Relating this back Iran I think this is a time where the world is called to take a side pragmatically. It comes down to what you stand for, what sort of world do we want. A more chaotic and terrifying one or one that supports the truth that we need to at least stop an obvious evil being committed.

One we should have dealt with years ago by standing together on Gods truth but have now made worse. BUt I am not sure whether its too late. The damage has been done, the truth undermined to the point of causing many to be blind to it.

The righteous should not be joyful when the adversary is made to suffer,

they should know it is not pleasant to suffer.

Who is the adversary, anyone with another take on things, spare a thought for the millions buried under rubble,

made homeless, losing family and much more.

 

[Dan1988]

Yes but also by modern secular western societies as well. Theres some elements of Viking beliefs coming in but also New Age Mysticism such as crystals, Moon and Sun worship and making the earths elements like spirits of gods. Even Hollywood and celebs become godlike and worshipped and if you look at their events you see all the trappings of idol worship.

Christ also acknowledges their existence as false prophets. He knew there would be copycats and warned us. Todays gods are very cunning. At least with the old pagan gods you could call them out today. Its just a calved rock. Its an unconscious lump of inanimate material and can do nothing. Look we can even see the atoms and they are not gods lol.

But just like when Abraham was called by the one true God there can only be one God if God is the creator and moral law and truth giver. Without truth and authority the pagan gods begin to compete and undermine each other until there is chaos.

Just like today we know there can only be one truth. Many truths is a logical fallacy. The greatest lie the false gods have manage is to convince people there is no truth in a Post Modernist and relativistic world.

Because no one is sure and everything is acceptable. Hamas and Hezbullah can be rationalised as the victim and doing good and the truth is rationalised as being bad.

How do we measure the truth. Christ told us He is the truth. So we can expose the radical Islamists as evil because their actions don't align with Christs truth. With His 2nd greatest commandment. Which also happens to align with most of our Rights, laws and Declarations.

This is a good point and I didn't think of it in this context. When you take a step back and consider all the religions and ideologies which are so varied that you could get lost in which one to believe in or not. It seems when it comes down to it everything leads to Christ.

As Christ is the truth and the world is for many truths then there will come a showdown between truths until one is left standing. That is the nature of truth as there can only be one truth. So as you stand on that truth and the more the world becomes untruths the more you are in conflict.

Yes as mentioned today there are 100s of ways to pervert Gods truth. The thing with Islam is that it has used an obvious truth to Christians and Jews of the Old Testament GOd and they have percerted it fundementally. Its so obvious.

But it seems in a strange and contradictory way this has aligned with western progressive ideology. So you get Queers for Palestine or students who should know better if they are taught critical thinking, a principle of free thinking are for the extermination of the Jews.

Its this weird amalgamation seem to have one thing in common. They hate the Jews and Christians. I don't think thats a coincident. Which tells me fundementally its a spiritual war. Its coming down to a spiritual battle and its going to increase.

Yeah I have heard this said a lot. Oprah did it, the View women do it, celebs do it while all claiming to be Christians. This is the new truth being pushed. The all encompassing, accepting, equal, diverse, tolerant and lovin melting pot of a new Utopia. Its very powerful as it sort of incorporates a bit of Christianity without the commitment to Christ. He is made into a good man, who teaches good living principles.

Its very cunning. But like you said Christ came to divide and His truth is the only truth and not many truths. But as with truth sooner or later it comes out. If you notice with all these new high priests making these claims that cracks are appearing in their facade. Revelations of dirty deeds and schemes done in secret. Their hypocracy will be exposed. But still they will deny the truth.

I read a similar example though not religious or the church but telling of modern society compared to years ago. At the DNC when the Pledge of Allegiance was being recited most went silent when God is mentioned. That is very telling of the Left today. I did not think it was that ingrained.

But then like if you said that the Woke church and society are pushing that there is no one God or no god at all then they are not going to want to acknowledge the one God their own very nation was based on. Quiet a detachment from the founding principles of the US.

This is part of Post Modernist thinking. There is no objective reality of truth and everything is self referential and created though words. Say it enough, muddy the waters and it becomes true.

Peterson does a good talk on the bible as the pre requisit of truth. That is without God there is no truth and that all truth in literature traces back to the bible.

Yes its almost as if you are not in conflict with these common relative ideologies that something is wrong with your faith. You havn't committed enough. The world is a powerful force and we naturally are tempted to go along as it involves our natural desires. But that is exactly what being Christlike is, conflicting and putting to death our natural desires. That should then put us in conflict with the world.

Yes and this matches the Isalmists ideology that Christ is just a prophet. They are almost helping them spread the ideology. Like I said these ideologies blend into one and even conflict within themselves as they are contradictory to the truth.

But Christ is not just made another prophet in among many truths. There is a conceryed effort to denounce Him. We see this with how even Islam is regarded with more empathy and worth than Christianity.

If you demean a Christian its OK. But if you do the same to a Muslim its Islamaphobia. If a Christian says God created man and women they are a transphobe. But the Woke can attack and destroy a Christian who simple expressed their belief. So ultimately its coming down to a spiritual battle between Christs truth and the worlds.

If you look back we see society was more Christian. As time has gone by God is being rejected. Things have become more relative. Christians always objected as society has become more secular. First it was the desolution of marriage. Well even before that things were becoming more progressive.

But as time has gone by we have seen the gradual devaluing of God and His moral laws. Which have been replaced with many different meanings and values. But primarily they oppose the one true God in Christ.

So it stands to reason that the more the world becomes Godless the more this will conflict with Christians. If the current trend keeps going we should see increased persecutions of Christians but also the rising of great Christians and works that will both amaze and antagonise the world.

Relating this back Iran I think this is a time where the world is called to take a side pragmatically. It comes down to what you stand for, what sort of world do we want. A more chaotic and terrifying one or one that supports the truth that we need to at least stop an obvious evil being committed.

One we should have dealt with years ago by standing together on Gods truth but have now made worse. BUt I am not sure whether its too late. The damage has been done, the truth undermined to the point of causing many to be blind to it.

While the world seems to be descending deeper into depravity, we can also say that there is nothing new under the sun. The world has never known peace, since the fall of man in the garden of Eden. The first world war started when Adam's son Cain killed his brother Abel. This war continues to this day, we have brother killing brother.

I agree with you that society as a whole has gradually waxed worse over in recent decades and especially during the last decade. History shows that society as a whole is humbled after it goes through a world war or some other disaster, but it reverts back to it's default position of sinful rebellion against God.
We see this cycle recorded in the bible, when God blessed Israel they prospered and then turned their back to God. Then He chastised them and they come back and the cycle is repeated.

The great depression of the 1930's and the world war that followed, humbled the average person and made him realize how fragile life is and how wicked men can bring about so much suffering.
The western world has enjoyed 79 years of peace and prosperity, this generation has enjoyed Gods blessings for a long time now, and just like the Israel of old we have turned our back to God also.

Most Christians have become very comfortable and lazy, Jesus said "the harvest is great but the laborer's are few". I see this in my Church as well, our outreach ministry is always struggling to get members to participate in door knocking. Those of us who do participate, find that those who live in expensive houses are not interested in hearing the gospel. They don't need God, because they have what they want, so they don't need Jesus for anything. Yet those who are struggling financially are much more willing to listen.

The world seems to be heading towards WW3, it almost seems to be a natural progression towards the inevitable. Those who serve the God of this world (Mammon) have been blinded so they call evil good and good evil.

Jesus said in John 16:2-4 the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. 3 And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. 4 But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.

Most Christians think that God will give them peace, health and wealth, But as we see, Jesus promised something very different. Matt 24:9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.

According to Jesus, His people are hated by all nations, and the world seeks to kill us because they hate Jesus and His people. I've heard many "woke progressive new age" people say that the biggest threat to world peace come from "White Christian Fundamentalists". I'm not sure how they arrived at that conclusion, but it does confirm that fundamental Christians are the most hated people of all.

I have brethren, who converted from Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and others. They were all persecuted by their families, and two of them who converted from Islam, fled their country because their own relatives were seeking to kill them. The Jewish brother said his family held a mock funeral for him, so all of this confirms what Jesus said about being hated by the world.

All of the past and current wars are bought about by the rulers of the darkness. Their human servants, do their bidding in the world. So the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah and every other war monger such as Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Chairman Mao, all serve the same Master. Satan is the Prince of this world system, and His Demons and human servants are all working together to bring about the total destruction of mankind.

Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Blessed are the peacemakers for we shall inherit the earth, so we should fear those who kill the body and then have no more power over us. But we must fear Him, who has the power to cast both body and soul into the lake of fire.
The Kings of the world will lose everything when Christ returns as the man of War, with His army of Angels. He will take this world by force and billions will die in the battle, which He wins.

 

[stevevw]

The righteous should not be joyful when the adversary is made to suffer,

they should know it is not pleasant to suffer.

Who is the adversary, anyone with another take on things, spare a thought for the millions buried under rubble,

made homeless, losing family and much more.

Of course any war is horrible and should not happen. Do you think Isreal should not have fired on Hamas. Though war is horrible Netanyahu quoted the bible in saying there is a time for peace and a time for war. Now is the time for war. I thought that very profound.

It wasn't just any war but a time for war. I think Isreal has been very patient and most would have snapped way earlier. Remembering its not just Hamas but many groups firing on them on a regular basis for years now. How much do you tolerate having your people bombed and terrorised.

Imagine if it was the west like it has been in the past. I remember the Bali bombing that killed many Australians. Aussies were friendly with the Balanese as a regular holiday destination. Then radicals blew up many Aussies and Bali tourism went down the drain and many suffered.

But if these terroris had kept bombing like in New York, Paris and London. Kept running people down and stabbing them going about their everyday lives. Making it hard to even function as everyone is living in terror. How long do you think the west would put up with that terror inflicted on them.

The west have only experienced 1/10 of what Isreal has had to live with. But believe me if they are not stopped they will turn back on the west and make our lives hell again.

I don;t know what the answer is but we can't just allow barbarians to slaughter people and not do anything. They don;t listen to reason and theres no appealing to empathy. They have none.

Thats why I think the best solution which may avoid large scale war is to get all the western nations, all the Arab nations that were willing to sign up for the Abraham Accord in support of Isreal as a nation and isolate Iran as the bad guy. Show them that even their own people the Muslims are against what they do.

 

[Robban]

Of course any war is horrible and should not happen. Do you think Isreal should not have fired on Hamas. Though war is horrible Netanyahu quoted the bible in saying there is a time for peace and a time for war. Now is the time for war. I thought that very profound.

It wasn't just any war but a time for war. I think Isreal has been very patient and most would have snapped way earlier. Remembering its not just Hamas but many groups firing on them on a regular basis for years now. How much do you tolerate having your people bombed and terrorised.

Imagine if it was the west like it has been in the past. I remember the Bali bombing that killed many Australians. Aussies were friendly with the Balanese as a regular holiday destination. Then radicals blew up many Aussies and Bali tourism went down the drain and many suffered.

But if these terroris had kept bombing like in New York, Paris and London. Kept running people down and stabbing them going about their everyday lives. Making it hard to even function as everyone is living in terror. How long do you think the west would put up with that terror inflicted on them.

The west have only experienced 1/10 of what Isreal has had to live with. But believe me if they are not stopped they will turn back on the west and make our lives hell again.

I don;t know what the answer is but we can't just allow barbarians to slaughter people and not do anything. They don;t listen to reason and theres no appealing to empathy. They have none.

Thats why I think the best solution which may avoid large scale war is to get all the western nations, all the Arab nations that were willing to sign up for the Abraham Accord in support of Isreal as a nation and isolate Iran as the bad guy. Show them that even their own people the Muslims are against what they do.

At least 42,000 dead , many,many more disabled, many, many homeless.

Moving from one unsafe spot to another, surely you don´t think they are all terrurists.

A couple of days after Okt 7 I thought it natural that there be a reaction.

3-4 years ago I was fished up out the water I was out, for a few days, I was flown to a hospital and kept in intensive care,

when I started to wake up, for some reason probably lots of morfin and maybe other stuff,

I started having hallucinations, a confusing time, but worst of all one was, the hospital collapsed, the floor raised up, the walls fell down,


I could see people passing by but they could not see me, and I sat trapped.

On hearing and seeing what was taking place in Gaza, it was like I was experiencing it,

Long story short I became ill, awfuly ill most part of summer, first now am getting better.

I learned something from it, therefore I say one should not be joyful if the adversary suffers.

And I know what war is like, I was three when the last great war ended.

 

[stevevw]

At least 42,000 dead , many,many more disabled, many, many homeless.

Moving from one unsafe spot to another, surely you don´t think they are all terrurists.

A couple of days after Okt 7 I thought it natural that there be a reaction.

3-4 years ago I was fished up out the water I was out, for a few days, I was flown to a hospital and kept in intensive care,

when I started to wake up, for some reason probably lots of morfin and maybe other stuff,

I started having hallucinations, a confusing time, but worst of all one was, the hospital collapsed, the floor raised up, the walls fell down,


I could see people passing by but they could not see me, and I sat trapped.

On hearing and seeing what was taking place in Gaza, it was like I was experiencing it,

Long story short I became ill, awfuly ill most part of summer, first now am getting better.

I learned something from it, therefore I say one should not be joyful if the adversary suffers.

And I know what war is like, I was three when the last great war ended.

Sounds like you may have had a NDE. But they are usually vivid and remembered in detail and usually pleasant.

I agree no innocent should die in war. But unfornately that is what happens. I was watching a video from Konstantin Kisin who I respect as a fair commentator.

He was saying that of all wars the Isreali war has the least amount of casualties of all wars throughout modern history. On average there are around 9 civilian deaths per 1 enermy killed. In the Gaza war it is only 2 civilians for 1 terrorist.

So though any innocent death is bad and should not happen but sometimes its inevitable and not because of the nations being attacked. So this low figure shows unlike some are claiming geneocide Isreal has been the most careful in minimising civilian deaths. It also means that around half the figure of deaths reported are terrorists.

Kisin gives 5 arguements why he now supports Isreal as he was on the fense about getting involved and taking sides. But after thinking about the facts and how any nation would respond he has changed his mind.

Another arguement is that compared to other terror attacks like 9/11 the Hamas attack equated to 12 times 9/11's for the ration of deaths compared to the US population. That equates to 36,000 innocents being killed and 1,000's more taken hostage. He poses the question how would any nation react to a terror attack that killed 36,000 and took 1,000's more hostage.

He gives the comparison that if 1,000s of Mexicans crossed into the US and killed 36,000 people and took 1,000's of hostages what would the US do. Added to this Hamas has declared that they would repeat Oct 7th again and again and again and could you blame a nation defending itself.

He also mentions that Hamas has stated their policy is that they hide weapons in civilian homes and use them as shields as they know this works in stopping the enermy attacking them.

Hamas could have stopped this and handed the hostages back. They could have hidden Gazans in their tunnels thus keeping them safe or allowed them to escape to safe zones. But they didn't and in fact they forced many to stay and they see civilians as part of the army in their war whether the Gazans choose to or not.

So it seems Isreal is between a rock and a hard place in this conflict. But they are no where near as bad as these Woke ideologues claim and this only makes matters worse. Causes conflict in our own nations which is the opposite of peace. Peace they claim they want.

In saying all this despite Isreals right to defend itself I don't think it can and should engage in a long term war with Hamas, Hezbollah and now Iran and whoever else comes in who hate the Jews. Its too much and too many deaths and I don't think they can win on their own.

So somewhere along the line Isreal or someone needs to get all the Arab nations who support Isreal and the West and isolate Ian and then put pressure on them as a united world to stop. In that way they have no excuse as they are going against the consensus of nations and will expose them.

 

[Robban]

Sounds like you may have had a NDE. But they are usually vivid and remembered in detail and usually pleasant.

I agree no innocent should die in war. But unfornately that is what happens. I was watching a video from Konstantin Kisin who I respect as a fair commentator.

He was saying that of all wars the Isreali war has the least amount of casualties of all wars throughout modern history. On average there are around 9 civilian deaths per 1 enermy killed. In the Gaza war it is only 2 civilians for 1 terrorist.

So though any innocent death is bad and should not happen but sometimes its inevitable and not because of the nations being attacked. So this low figure shows unlike some are claiming geneocide Isreal has been the most careful in minimising civilian deaths. It also means that around half the figure of deaths reported are terrorists.

Kisin gives 5 arguements why he now supports Isreal as he was on the fense about getting involved and taking sides. But after thinking about the facts and how any nation would respond he has changed his mind.

Another arguement is that compared to other terror attacks like 9/11 the Hamas attack equated to 12 times 9/11's for the ration of deaths compared to the US population. That equates to 36,000 innocents being killed and 1,000's more taken hostage. He poses the question how would any nation react to a terror attack that killed 36,000 and took 1,000's more hostage.

He gives the comparison that if 1,000s of Mexicans crossed into the US and killed 36,000 people and took 1,000's of hostages what would the US do. Added to this Hamas has declared that they would repeat Oct 7th again and again and again and could you blame a nation defending itself.

He also mentions that Hamas has stated their policy is that they hide weapons in civilian homes and use them as shields as they know this works in stopping the enermy attacking them.

Hamas could have stopped this and handed the hostages back. They could have hidden Gazans in their tunnels thus keeping them safe or allowed them to escape to safe zones. But they didn't and in fact they forced many to stay and they see civilians as part of the army in their war whether the Gazans choose to or not.

So it seems Isreal is between a rock and a hard place in this conflict. But they are no where near as bad as these Woke ideologues claim and this only makes matters worse. Causes conflict in our own nations which is the opposite of peace. Peace they claim they want.

In saying all this despite Isreals right to defend itself I don't think it can and should engage in a long term war with Hamas, Hezbollah and now Iran and whoever else comes in who hate the Jews. Its too much and too many deaths and I don't think they can win on their own.

So somewhere along the line Isreal or someone needs to get all the Arab nations who support Isreal and the West and isolate Ian and then put pressure on them as a united world to stop. In that way they have no excuse as they are going against the consensus of nations and will expose them.

First I will say it was not a NDE, when I was out I was out. nothing, total nothingness.


7 October 23 was Simchat Torah which also fell on a Shabbat, a time for celebration,

clearly Hamas attacked when they thought Israels guard would be down, and it was.

Panic and blind rage followed,

And so it is today,, this weekend is the holiest day, the day of atonement, Yom Kippur.

Let us hope that it be as in the days of old, when many miracles were wrought.

 

[stevevw]

First I will say it was not a NDE, when I was out I was out. nothing, total nothingness.

OK well thats completely different.

7 October 23 was Simchat Torah which also fell on a Shabbat, a time for celebration,

clearly Hamas attacked when they thought Israels guard would be down, and it was.

Panic and blind rage followed,

And so it is today,, this weekebd is the holiest day, the day of atonement, Yom Kippur.

Let us hope that it be as in the days of old, when many miracles were wrought.

Its telling that they choose such a day. Yes lets pray God is looking after things.

 

[stevil]

If USA stops funding Israel's war machine then there might be peace in the Middle East, until that day Israel are going to keep going heavy handed and relentlessly attack their neighbors.

 

[Dan1988]

If USA stops funding Israel's war machine then there might be peace in the Middle East, until that day Israel are going to keep going heavy handed and relentlessly attack their neighbors.

Your antisemitic comments reveal that you have been deceived by the enemies of truth. The fact is, Israel doesn't have a "war a machine" that's a foolish comment.
Israel had a defense force, not a war machine. The civilized world must support Israel to protect us from the terrorists, we should give Israel much more money so they can eliminate every last terrorist. Then the world can have peace and prosperity.

I can't understand people like you who hate peace and love death and terror. This is what Satan loves, those of us who love righteousness, justice, peace and prosperity, must stand up against evil and support Gods chosen people to destroy the evil doers.

The IDF is the most professional and disciplined Military in the entire world. It does everything to avoid civilian casualties, but sadly, the terrorists use civilians as humans shields, so they are responsible for civilian casualties and not the IDF. It's very frustrating to see that antisemites like you still don't know the basic facts but you, your quick to pass your false judgement on Gods chosen people.

 

[stevil]

Your antisemitic comments reveal that you have been deceived by the enemies of truth.

I'm not antisemetic. I have no problems at all with Jewish people.

 

[stevil]

The IDF is the most professional and disciplined Military in the entire world. It does everything to avoid civilian casualties.

They have killed far more civilians than what their enemies have killed.
The Israelis have masses of weapons and are blowing up and killing very many Palistinians, Iranians, Lebenon citizens. It' s just what they do.

 

[Dan1988]

I'm not antisemetic. I have no problems at all with Jewish people.

If the US stops supporting Israel, it's enemies the terrorists will kill every last Jew. We don't need another Jewish holocaust.

 

[stevil]

If the US stops supporting Israel, it's enemies the terrorists will kill every last Jew. We don't need another Jewish holocaust.

I very much doubt that.

I very much doubt any Arab nation has any intent on invading countries like what Hitler did, and seeking out Jews to kill them.

 

[Dan1988]

They have killed far more civilians than what their enemies have killed.
The Israelis have masses of weapons and are blowing up and killing very many Palistinians, Iranians, Lebenon citizens. It' s just what they do.

It's not true, Israel has not killed a single civilian. The terrorist killed them by putting them in the crossfire and using them as human shields.
The link below provides proof that this is the case. I don't know if you're interested in the truth or you just here to push propaganda.

 

[Dan1988]

I very much doubt that.

I very much doubt any Arab nation has any intent on invading countries like what Hitler did, and seeking out Jews to kill them.

Unless you have been living under a rock, you would know that many of the leaders of Israel's neighboring countries have vowed to eliminate Israel off the map and make the Jews extinct. This is what the war is all about. Israel wants to live in peace but these evil terrorists want war and death.

 

[stevil]

Unless you have been living under a rock, you would know that many of the leaders of Israel's neighboring countries have vowed to eliminate Israel off the map and make the Jews extinct. This is what the war is all about. Israel wants to live in peace but these evil terrorists want war and death.

That's entirely different.

It is true that many Arab nations don't want an Israeli state. But it is untrue that they want to kill all the Jews.

If the Arab nations got together and decided to give Texas to the Hindus. They just took the land away from the Americans and gave it to the Hindus and then armed the Hindus to the kilt in order to defend themselves from the inevitable attacks that Americans would make on them, trying to get Texas back. And then They rename it Hindustan, and then they start attacking neighboring lands in order to make Hindustan even bigger.
I would expect many Americans would believe it to be resonable to want to eliminate Hindustan and to want to fight and reclaim Texas.

 

[stevil]

It's not true, Israel has not killed a single civilian.

OK, LOL, that's a good one.

 

[Dan1988]

That's entirely different.

It is true that many Arab nations don't want an Israeli state. But it is untrue that they want to kill all the Jews.

If the Arab nations got together and decided to give Texas to the Hindus. They just took the land away from the Americans and gave it to the Hindus and then armed the Hindus to the kilt in order to defend themselves from the inevitable attacks that Americans would make on them, trying to get Texas back. And then They rename it Hindustan, and then they start attacking neighboring lands in order to make Hindustan even bigger.
I would expect many Americans would believe it to be resonable to want to eliminate Hindustan and to want to fight and reclaim Texas.

I'm not sure if you've ever studied any history at all, but let me share one awful fact with you. EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY WHICH HAS EVER EXISTED, OR EXISTS TODAY WAS CREATED IN A BLOOD BATH. Nobody just gives up their land without a fight, but the stronger army always wins and that's how we have states and countries.

I'm surprised you never learned that at school. So you should pack your bags and get out of your country and give it back to the traditional owners, if you don't do that right now then you're nothing more than a hypocrite.

I live in Australia, my ancestors invaded this continent and the Aboriginals put a fight to defend it but we overpowered them with our guns and nearly wiped their memory out of history. I'm proud of my ancestors for winning the war and possessing this beautiful rich country. We are no different to anyone else, everyone had to wipe out the original inhabitants their country, in order to posses it.

Israel possessed the land in a very humane way, they didn't kill all the Palestinians, so they should be commended for restraining themselves and resisting the temptation to do what every other country did to their natives. If you look at history, you will see God commanded Israel to wipe out entire ethnic groups and poses their land, many times. So this is the way it's done, the stronger always dominates the weaker.

I think all those who are against Israel should leave their countries and go and live in the deserts, to show that they don't agree with conquest. Otherwise they should be quite.

 

[Dan1988]

OK, LOL, that's a good one.

That's right, the terrorists throw their people under the Israeli bus. So don't blame the bus driver LOL

 

[stevil]

If you look at history, you will see God commanded Israel to wipe out entire ethnic groups and poses their land, many times. So this is the way it's done, the stronger always dominates the weaker.

LOL, that's not history. God isn't a historical figure.

Anyway, as far as I understand it Israel are the invaders, and are constantly oppressing and bombing and stealling land from their neighbors. I have no idea why USA wants to support them in that.