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NEO-Eugenics

nuenke

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ForeRunner said:
Ignorance and intelligence are distinctly different, to claim that crime rates are high in Urban areas (for example) are due to low intelligence rather than a myriad of social and economic factors is just plain irresponsible.

There are differences in the three major races, but none of them involve intelligence. Keep in mind that if there were people that didn't seek to help educate those people that are unable to do so themselves you would most likely be pushing a plow on some farm and expiring after 30 years in a heaped over arthritic mess.

Knowledge is easily obtained when one is intelligent and difficult when one has low intelligence. Studies from around the world show that population groups or races with low average intelligence have higher crime rates - but of course social structure is also important and effects overall crime rates by country.

Nonetheless, sub-Saharan Africans have an average IQ of 70 and an extremely high crime rate, East Asians have an average IQ of about 105 and a low crime rate anywhere they are found (in whatever country). Whites are in between in crime rates, with an average IQ of about 100. The intelligence versus criminality correlation is found everywhere in the world, and it is true whether comparing individuals or races.

Also, intelligence is about 80% heritable in adulthood, so there is no SES-crime correlation that overshadows the IQ-crime correlation. There are now numerous studies, the most important being twin/kinship relationship studies, that show that genes and the non-shared environment determines how children turn out. The shared environment component fades from childhood to adulthood approaching zero except for sociability and autonomy.

What is truly irresponsible, is to continue to embrace outdated public policies that embrace intervention programs that do not work. Science builds upon what can be shown to be more valid than alternative theories. Over the last 30 years especially, the SES causation for crime has been overturned by genetic causations. That is, genes count more than one's environmental circumstances, but in individual cases one can override the other. That is why anecdotal stories are not used in quantitative genetic studies, only aggregate studies, where proper controls can filter out emotional dogmas or fold psychology viewpoints.
 
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