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Hey. I just signed up, still finding my feet.

I have some questions I need to find answers for, thought maybe someone here could help. I doubt anyone will read it here, but if you do and know where i should post it please email me.

well here goes:


Why is it that despite my greatest efforts I feel nothing of god? His love, guidance, omnipotence. All I feel is anger, rage at the echo my soul receives of the love sent out to a greater power. I grow colder with each reverberation. If I am to be condemned for this I ask you, why? If I say I love god and embrace the lord, these will only be hollow words.

Logic tells me to find my own meaning in this existence, that nihilism is a fitting term for the universe’s state.

Faith tells me nothing… Not a whisper.

I do not love him. I do not feel loved by him. The bible is a mass of pages and print.
I see fault in what it preaches, errors in its logic. These go unnoticed so I have come to believe they do not matter. Despite it all I look at it, and believers, and I see them trying so hard not to connect, to just blindly walk at something they’ve only been told exists.

By what I have learnt for your bible, your religion to be true I should feel something, anything towards god or from god or something. Believers can say god loves through them but I see it in their eyes. It’s just an attempt to follow the laws of their favourite character. It isn’t real.

Your concept of god wouldn’t create something like me. I’m left with two logical thoughts. Either he doesn’t exist or he didn’t create me.

Which do you think is true?

And am I going to hell because I cannot touch something beyond my reach?

-Insitu. (not my name, ust aptly describing the feeling of being in the original position, not having been moved)
 

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insitu said:
Hey. I just signed up, still finding my feet.

I have some questions I need to find answers for, thought maybe someone here could help. I doubt anyone will read it here, but if you do and know where i should post it please email me.

well here goes:


Why is it that despite my greatest efforts I feel nothing of god? His love, guidance, omnipotence. All I feel is anger, rage at the echo my soul receives of the love sent out to a greater power. I grow colder with each reverberation. If I am to be condemned for this I ask you, why? If I say I love god and embrace the lord, these will only be hollow words.

Logic tells me to find my own meaning in this existence, that nihilism is a fitting term for the universe’s state.

Faith tells me nothing… Not a whisper.

I do not love him. I do not feel loved by him. The bible is a mass of pages and print.
I see fault in what it preaches, errors in its logic. These go unnoticed so I have come to believe they do not matter. Despite it all I look at it, and believers, and I see them trying so hard not to connect, to just blindly walk at something they’ve only been told exists.

By what I have learnt for your bible, your religion to be true I should feel something, anything towards god or from god or something. Believers can say god loves through them but I see it in their eyes. It’s just an attempt to follow the laws of their favourite character. It isn’t real.

Your concept of god wouldn’t create something like me. I’m left with two logical thoughts. Either he doesn’t exist or he didn’t create me.

Which do you think is true?

And am I going to hell because I cannot touch something beyond my reach?

-Insitu. (not my name, ust aptly describing the feeling of being in the original position, not having been moved)
Well I will reply, because God does love you.
I don't know if this is the right area foir your question. I found it and I know that God meant me to answer you.
I do not have "religion". What I have is a trust of God, who created you and me and all the other people in this world (Living, dead and yet to be.)
To feel Gods presence can take years. It is not an emotion. It will be emotional for most.
My God did create you. The fallen world in which we live bent me and my family and friends all out of shape.
God sent a redeemer, His Son Jesus Christ, so that those who will believe upon Him will have eternal life and not perish in the lake of fire, designed and reserved for the fallen angels, not mankind.
It is not a matter of you not being able to touch something beyond your reach. Let me explain a little.
When elephants are caught from the wild for circuses they were baby elephants. Their trainer tied them to a huge stake in the ground. This stake was an immovable object for the baby elephant. As hard as it tried it could not break free. The stake was set firmly in the young elephants mind as being not able to be moved. Eventually the baby gave up trying. Several years later, this same elephant, which now ways over a tonne, will still not pull against that stake. If it were to try the stake would pull out of the ground like a splinter. Teh stake did not change size to met the elephants growth. No the trainer knew that if he convinced the elephant early enough in its life that it could not even budge the stake it would remain fixed forever. Trapped by, what in comparison is only a splinter.
Where am I going with this?
Here. You have tried a few times no doubt to get in touch with your creator. The prince of this world doesn't want you to do that so he put a stake in the ground. Onewhich he knew you would strain against, and with your then spritual strength would not be able to move. Soon enough you would give up and go back to where he wants you. The difference between you and the elephant is, you have asked for help. You do not need to go back to walking around that same tired old stake. You can be set free. Jesus will make you stronger each time you try to break free, but only He can set you free. We must try, but He does the actual work.
How do I know this? I am free, and if Jesus can set me free He can certainly set you free.
He will if you ask. And I want to agree with you in the asking, because Jesus says, if two or more ask in my Name, then it shall be done for them.
 
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God did create you, and he loves you. Jesus died on the cross for you, so that you may have ever lasting life. Faith is believing in something that you cant touch or see. Its believing that God does love you and that he is always there for you nomatter how you feel or what struggles you go through. I know that jesus loves me, he lives in me. You just need to come to him and ask him with a believing heart. We were all created with a purpose and a plan. To love God and to serve him. When we recieve him as our savior, he abides in us and us in him. He transformed me inside and out. My thoughts, my desires, my whole outlook on life has completely changed and I know it was him who changed me, not by my works but him working in me. If you have any questions or anything, you can email me at lovinghim4ever. I would love to help you with this. Take care and God bless.
 
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Hey! You say that you are open to God, but things will not make sense until you have accepted Jesus Christ into your heart. Christians understand the bible because we have the Holy Spirit in us to interpret things and to help us along. But you don't receive the Holy Spirit until you receive Christ. But God does love you! And He did create you! He created everything! Just keep an open heart and pray. God will reveal Himself at the right time! I'll be praying for you. Feel free to PM me anytime you have any questions. God bless!
~Amanda~
 
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insitu said:
Why is it that despite my greatest efforts I feel nothing of god? His love, guidance, omnipotence. All I feel is anger, rage at the echo my soul receives of the love sent out to a greater power. I grow colder with each reverberation. If I am to be condemned for this I ask you, why? If I say I love god and embrace the lord, these will only be hollow words.

I wish I could speak 2 u face to face or even over the phone, but this will have to do for now . . . For 18 months I read a lot of books, went to many different meetings, "prayed the sinners prayer", "gave my heart to Jesus", worshipped with one hand up, then 2, danced etc . . .

Then I met people who had a confidence & contentment I could not attain to, and they didn't seem to be trying as hard as me.

They had done 1 thing I hadn't, called upon God wanting only what *he* can do, specifically the infilling of His Spirit. I prayed for the same and the 3rd time, alone in my room I began speaking in tongues. I began to experience another Life . .God leading me instead of me trying to work God out.

I understood Jesus' saying:- "except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Instead of looking to my love for God, I began to draw on God's love for me ..
"the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us." "Romans 5v5)

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." (1 Cor. 2v9-10)

"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." (John 3v7)
 
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I suspect you are an intelligent and sensitive (hurt?) person that will need some real answers to your real questions. You will need to dig deeper than anything thatcan be given on the forum. You will need extended information and reasoning from intelligent Christians qualified in the areas you want answers for.

Theer is plenty of information (books and web sites) available. Let me know if you want some information about them.

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