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need some help regarding old testiment law

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Why enlighten one to the law of Moses? One needs to be enlightened to the Love of God through Christ Jesus the Lord.

There is no difference. Gods Words of the O.T. were the Words of God in Christ, the LIVING WORD. The intentions of any commands are to the results of love.
 
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There is no difference. Gods Words of the O.T. were the Words of God in Christ, the LIVING WORD. The intentions of any commands are to the results of love.

Very good!

God's Laws are "holy, just and good"; at least that's what Paul said.


God says that He gave His Laws to man so that life would go well for him.


God's Laws are for our own good and to make us happy.


When you understand these things and obey God's Laws you will see how much better life goes than living it your own way.


Of course it takes faith, that is the kind of faith that not only believes in God but faith that believes God.

You know, like Abraham did.
 
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Very good!

God's Laws are "holy, just and good"; at least that's what Paul said.

No doubt as to 'intent.' No amount of 'fleshly observance' will serve to enact LOVE in the heart toward our neighbors.
God says that He gave His Laws to man so that life would go well for him.
God's Laws are for our own good and to make us happy.

All the commandments are comprehended, obtained and FULfilled when loving ALL our neighbors is the final result. The O.T. is filled with [physical/fleshly] ordinance which ALL must be viewed in a spiritual manner to the extent of LOVE. They were ALL SHADOWS of LOVE. Shadows are not the 'reality' of the Spiritual intent of ALL the commands injected into the heart.

When you understand these things and obey God's Laws you will see how much better life goes than living it your own way.

The difficulty with 'shadow legalists' is that in the final analysis they 'use' the commands to extract VIOLENCE against their neighbors RATHER THAN love. Violence meaning reeking of condemnation to neighbors, judgment to neighbors and ultimately some form of ETERNAL DEATH or PUNISHEMENT to neighbors such as burning them alive in fire forever...and of course the nearly complete exoneration of themselves under those same laws.

ALL of that working is a working and a showing of the EVIL in the heart that has been aroused and provoked by that same LAW to show itself IN THE HEART and IN CONTROL of that heart.

Of course it takes faith, that is the kind of faith that not only believes in God but faith that believes God. You know, like Abraham did.

Anyone can claim they are children of God or children of Abraham or children of faith.

Faith works THROUGH love. To say one has 'faith in God' or 'loves God' by faith and then NOT loving ALL our neighbors there is NO FAITH nor is faith possible apart from 'that measure.' If you can't love those you have before your eyes (neighbors) then claiming to love what you can't see (God) is a sham. (1 John 4:20 and many others)
 
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There is no difference. Gods Words of the O.T. were the Words of God in Christ, the LIVING WORD. The intentions of any commands are to the results of love.
Only the Lord could have inspired those words.
 
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Reminds me of the dark ages when that is exactly what happened.. and all because the reformation was going on in the hearts of men.
 
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Why enlighten one to the law of Moses? One needs to be enlightened to the Love of God through Christ Jesus the Lord.


2 Corin 3:14 But was calloused the minds of them.
For until the today, the same covering upon the reading of the Old Covenant is remaining, no being up-covered/ana-kaluptomenon <343> (5746).
That In Christ it is being-taken-away
 
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2 Corin 3:14 But was calloused the minds of them.
For until the today, the same covering upon the reading of the Old Covenant is remaining, no being up-covered/ana-kaluptomenon <343> (5746).
That In Christ it is being-taken-away
Notice it is just the covering that is removed...which means when reading the OC we should be able to see it in the Light of Yeshua.
 
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Notice it is just the covering is removed...
So is the jewish/hebrew book of Revelation

2 Corin 3:14 But was calloused the minds of them. For until the today *day, the same covering upon the reading of the Old Covenant is remaining, no being up-covered/ana-kaluptomenon <343> (5746). That In Christ it is being-taken-away

Revelation 1:1 An uncovering/apo-kaluyiV <602> of Jesus Christ which gives to him, the God, to show to the bond-servants of Him which-things is binding to be becoming in swiftness
And He signifies commissioning thru the Messenger of Him to the bondservants of Him John.
 
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Good post PK. It doesn't come as a surprise that your post was avoided.
 
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There are a few threads on CF on that subject .

http://www.christianforums.com/t7387109/
Why Christian not allowed eat to pig?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2885502-44/
Why Christians do eat pork despite its...
 
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It is strongly advised to this day that if you visit any nation in Africa, you refrain from eating pork. Many of them do not process it sufficiently to remove the danger of serious illness due to bacteria in the meat.

We are also told not to drink the water in Mexico.

When traveling overseas, it is best to give heed to the health regulations put out by governments.

I have been eating pork products for almost 50 yrs and still do to this day, but that has been all in the US.
 
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God did not say you don't need to obey Me if you are in the U.S.
If He did I haven't read it yet.
Chapter and verse please.
 
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God did not say you don't need to obey Me if you are in the U.S.
If He did I haven't read it yet.
Chapter and verse please.
What the heck are you ranting about now TD?! Yes I eat pork products and no I do not keep the Sabbath.
 
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What the heck are you ranting about now TD?! Yes I eat pork products and no I do not keep the Sabbath.

What are talking about?

Don't you read your own posts?

This is your post I am refering to.

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

We are also told not to drink the water in Mexico.

When traveling overseas, it is best to give heed to the health regulations put out by governments.

I have been eating pork products for almost 50 yrs and still do to this day, but that has been all in the US.

That's no excuse; being in the U.S. that is.
You'll have to come up with a better excuse than that.
 
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SO? What is your point?
 
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