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Need help understanding the 1st & 4th day of creation

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I’m having trouble trying to figure out what the light is that was created on the 1st day of creation since the sun, moon, and stars were created on the 4th day. I will be going over this on Saturday with my family for bible study and I’ve asked 2 pastors from my church who also didn’t have an answer. So I’m hoping I can get some help on this before then. I’ve checked the Hebrew words for Day, Night, light, and darkness and I don’t see any possibility of alternative meanings for these words. I noticed that the words Day and Night are capitalized in verse 5 but not in any of the other verses in Genesis 1. I’m not sure if this might be some type of clue.

Hi BNR,

Well, and I readily admit that there is no Scriptural justification for this understanding, but...

I've always considered that it might be possible that since God is described as light, that it may have been God's pronouncement of His coming into this realm of His creating to begin the work of His creating. In reading the many fiction books of Frank Peretti, I have come to consider that God creates different realms. There is the heavenly realm with the angels and demons and there is the realm in which we live.

His books speak of these realms overlapping, which does tend to agree with the Scriptures. That there are angels and demons all around us, but they exist in a different realm which we can't see or hear with the eyes and ears that God created us to have.

From time to time, God has in the past, allowed passage (as far as our sight and sound) from one realm to the other. The angels that have spoken to men/women in the Scriptures were obviously given the ability to make themselves seen to the human eye. In the case of John and many of the old covenant prophets, they speak of times that they were able to see the heavenly realm. One of the greatest depictions in the Scripture of this ability to be seen from another realm in our realm is the account of the angels appearing to the shepherds at the birth of Jesus. They were able to see this 'heavenly host' of angels in the night sky. As if there was some sort of tear in the fabric that separates the two realms. There are even a couple of examples that would suggest that God can open the eyes of one creature to 'see' in the heavenly realm while others in close attendance can't see a thing. The angel standing before the donkey is one and Paul's Damascus experience another.

So, God, from the heavenly realm which already existed, steps into this new realm in which He is preparing to create man. When He does He proclaims, "Let there be light!" Instantly the light of who God is shines into this realm and He begins to create the earth and the waters and sky and the flora and the stars and the animals and then finally man.

Again, I can't confirm through the Scriptures that such is the source of the first light, but it does fit with the Scriptures and allows that there could have been light in this created realm before the common sources of light that we now see actually existed. We are actually told in the final words of the Revelation that there will be no more need of the sun or moon because God will be the light of that city.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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