How do I start talking to jesus with astral projection and lucid dreaming?
How would things like this help you to talk with someone who loves you and cares about you? You might consider how Jesus on this earth had personal and quality conversations with a number of people. They did not need any contraptions, in order to talk with Him.
Because Jesus is not conceited and distant and impersonal. So, it is wise not to try to use foolish and impersonal methods, in order to reach and share with Jesus. Satan is the one who has people doing many different ceremonial and recipe-following things . . . with the end result that the person is stuck with how he or she was before doing those copy-cat, do this, and do that things witch never can be enough because it does not work.
So, in case you have been doing certain things which have not worked . . . this is very likely because what you have tried does not work!!
This goes for all of us.
But you mention lucid dreaming. Well, in order for you to fall asleep, don't you need to submit to it? What if you consciously try to control your sleep and make yourself to go to sleep? What will happen? Your deliberate trying to make yourself sleep will keep you conscious, right?
So, it can be like this with our trying and crying and attempting to pry God into doing what we want. This is not submitting. Like how you need to just stop and rest and let sleep ooze in and take you over, maybe this is like to how we need to submit to God.
Sleep, I now understand, is a gift of God. Without even knowing it, there could be people who are submitting to God, by how they submit for sleep to take them over and benefit them. They can't make it happen; they can't control it; the more they try to control it can be the more they spoil it.
But if we submit to Jesus and how He rests us and personally guides us . . . while correcting us . . . fine-tuning and adjusting us . . . this makes us more and more conscious and alive in His love. This is not self-produced, but totally dependent on God who is so greater and more complex than the sleep process . . . not what you can understand and control, but enjoy . . . with correction needed.
We have needed to turn from our lives of sin and selfish stuff. We have needed to trust in Jesus who died for us, on the cross. And how Jesus has forgiven us so generously and loved us unconditionally, on Calvary . . . this is our example required also of us, how God has us also so generously forgiving and loving unconditionally.
"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)
Jesus on the cross suffered and died like that, with hope for any evil person, at all. So, Jesus who is God's own Son is not at all conceited!
So, you don't need distant stuff of trying to fly through the whole universe, to find Jesus!