Need Advice

[Gold fish]

I need advice on how to talk to jesus.From the religions that use astral projection and lucid dreaming to talk to jesus.So the two religions I need advice from are eckankar and gnosticism.How do I start talking to jesus with astral projection and lucid dreaming?

 

[Michie]

I need advice on how to talk to jesus.From the religions that use astral projection and lucid dreaming to talk to jesus.So the two religions I need advice from are eckankar and gnosticism.How do I start talking to jesus with astral projection and lucid dreaming?

You are in Christian Advice. You talk to Jesus through prayer. Gnosticism, eckankar and astral projection have no place here.

 

[Gold fish]

You are in Christian Advice. You talk to Jesus through prayer. Gnosticism, eckankar and astral projection have no place here.

Were does it go then?

 

[Michie]

Were does it go then?

Not anywhere on this board as far as I’m concerned. *shrug*

 

[splish- splash]

What exactly are you looking to do? I cant understand why you have to put yourself, through such a process 1st inorder to talk to Christ.

 

[Gold fish]

What exactly are you looking to do? I cant understand why you have to put yourself, through such a process 1st inorder to talk to Christ.

I think it well help me with my walk with jesus more.

 

[icxn]

Since you are a gold fish, grunts, growls, chirps and pops would suffice:

Do not be over-sophisticated in the words you use when praying, because the simple and unadorned lisping of children has often won the heart of their heavenly Father. - Saint John Climacus​

 

[Michie]

What exactly are you looking to do? I cant understand why you have to put yourself, through such a process 1st inorder to talk to Christ.

Read the post history.

 

[Dave G.]

I need advice on how to talk to jesus.From the religions that use astral projection and lucid dreaming to talk to jesus.So the two religions I need advice from are eckankar and gnosticism.How do I start talking to jesus with astral projection and lucid dreaming?

You're looking to go down a dangerous path straight into the arms of another Jesus and propagated by another gospel. You don't know what you're asking here because you don't know the true Jesus or the true gospel. If you did you wouldn't be asking this.

 

[RN111]

You talk to God through prayer. Astral projection is of occult practice and is forbidden. Only bad things will come from it. As for lucid dreaming, I have no idea. Personally, you should pray to God on this matter and before you sleep. Don't go on the road of Occult practice, it will only invite demons and bring destruction to your life.

 

[Tolworth John]

I need advice on how to talk to jesus.From the religions that use astral projection and lucid dreaming to talk to jesus.So the two religions I need advice from are eckankar and gnosticism.How do I start talking to jesus with astral projection and lucid dreaming?

Jesus made it crystal clear that he is the way to God. He also made it clear that we do things his way only.

He only talked about verbal prayers. He made no mention of astral projections or of lucid dreaming.
He further made it clear that any messages received by dreams, fissions etc must conform to the message found in the bible.

 

[com7fy8]

astral projection and lucid dreaming to talk to jesus.

These are not talking, and these things are not the way to God.

Jesus is the way to God.

From what I read, it seems possible that astral projection and lucid dreaming can be ways of you controlling things; and you can spoil your sleep, by the way, because you are tinkering with what is God's gift and what you need to submit to His control so you get the most benefit from sleep.

We need to submit to how Jesus cares for us and personally corrects us . . . how He communicates with us and changes us and guides us. What we say to Him is not the main thing.

eckankar and gnosticism

not the way

Jesus is the way.

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

Jesus is God's own Son; so He is almighty. His peace is almighty to give our souls rest, which has almighty power against cruel and anti-love things like unforgiveness and frustration and hate and abusive anger and arguing and pleasure hang-ups.

So, there is trusting needed, not only talk methods.

 

[com7fy8]

How do I start talking to jesus with astral projection and lucid dreaming?

How would things like this help you to talk with someone who loves you and cares about you? You might consider how Jesus on this earth had personal and quality conversations with a number of people. They did not need any contraptions, in order to talk with Him.

Because Jesus is not conceited and distant and impersonal. So, it is wise not to try to use foolish and impersonal methods, in order to reach and share with Jesus. Satan is the one who has people doing many different ceremonial and recipe-following things . . . with the end result that the person is stuck with how he or she was before doing those copy-cat, do this, and do that things witch never can be enough because it does not work.

So, in case you have been doing certain things which have not worked . . . this is very likely because what you have tried does not work!!

This goes for all of us.

But you mention lucid dreaming. Well, in order for you to fall asleep, don't you need to submit to it? What if you consciously try to control your sleep and make yourself to go to sleep? What will happen? Your deliberate trying to make yourself sleep will keep you conscious, right?

So, it can be like this with our trying and crying and attempting to pry God into doing what we want. This is not submitting. Like how you need to just stop and rest and let sleep ooze in and take you over, maybe this is like to how we need to submit to God.

Sleep, I now understand, is a gift of God. Without even knowing it, there could be people who are submitting to God, by how they submit for sleep to take them over and benefit them. They can't make it happen; they can't control it; the more they try to control it can be the more they spoil it.

But if we submit to Jesus and how He rests us and personally guides us . . . while correcting us . . . fine-tuning and adjusting us . . . this makes us more and more conscious and alive in His love. This is not self-produced, but totally dependent on God who is so greater and more complex than the sleep process . . . not what you can understand and control, but enjoy . . . with correction needed.

We have needed to turn from our lives of sin and selfish stuff. We have needed to trust in Jesus who died for us, on the cross. And how Jesus has forgiven us so generously and loved us unconditionally, on Calvary . . . this is our example required also of us, how God has us also so generously forgiving and loving unconditionally.

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

Jesus on the cross suffered and died like that, with hope for any evil person, at all. So, Jesus who is God's own Son is not at all conceited!

So, you don't need distant stuff of trying to fly through the whole universe, to find Jesus!

 

[4hope]

Hi, Gold fish.

You do not want to mess with that. It’s new age, demonic, and very dangerous.

Please click on the following link for a YouTube video of someone who has done it ALL including lucid dreaming.
She got saved by Jesus and knows the truth. This is her testimony. She also is available if you need to. reach her or have questions.

Hope this helps.

 

[Gold fish]

I have some good news.

Instead of just trying to self-induced astral projection and lucid dreaming.All I am going to do is pray for an out of body experience and or lucid dream from god here on out.

 

[Michie]

I have some good news.

Instead of just trying to self-induced astral projection and lucid dreaming.All I am going to do is pray for an out of body experience and or lucid dream from god here on out.

Whatever. God will interact with you how He sees fit. Continued prayers.