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[AV1611VET]

Whose history?

Ours.

 

[AV1611VET]

At least they prioritize correctly.

This video, detailing the Challenger, the Columbia, the Deepwater Horizon, and two navy ships, shows exactly where I'm coming from as far as highly-educated persons being put in the position to vote and/or override situations that ended in disaster.

Retro Report

 

[Bungle_Bear]

This video, detailing the Challenger, the Columbia, the Deepwater Horizon, and two navy ships, shows exactly where I'm coming from as far as highly-educated persons being put in the position to vote and/or override situations that ended in disaster.

Retro Report

Here's the abstract for the linked video. Please respond highlighting the words which blame scientists for what happened:

This 18-minute video introduces students to the complex and often misunderstood causes of the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger, one of the most important cultural events of the 1980s. It examines the rhetorical context for one of President Ronald Reagan’s most memorable speeches. This video is useful for lessons on the U.S. space program, the culture of the 1980s, and as a unit in a business class on organizational culture. The video could also accompany and contextualize lessons that rely on President Reagan’s address to the nation after the accident as a primary source.

 

[AV1611VET]

Here's the abstract for the linked video. Please respond highlighting the words which blame scientists for what happened:

I can't.

I used "highly-educated persons" instead.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I can't.

I used "highly-educated persons" instead.

Because you realise you can't pin it on scientists?

 

[AV1611VET]

Because you realise you can't pin it on scientists?

Yes and no.

I didn't want to get into having to go through these guys' profiles to see who voted to see if they were indeed scientists.

My guess is that some of them are, but I don't know for sure.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Creationism does NOT belong in science class.

It belongs in history class.

And that's where I learned about it. (Specifically, post-war US history)

The mistake I made in HS was thinking it was *only* a historical phenomena. (Moving to the south was a bit of a shock.)

 

[Kylie]

Creationism does NOT belong in science class.

It belongs in history class.

No, it belongs in a religious studies class.

Things in history class should be actual events that happened. Krystalnacht, the moon landing, that sort of thing.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

My guess is that some of them are, but I don't know for sure.

That's quite an admission for somebody who takes great joy in declaring on a regular basis that the Challenger disaster was the sole responsibility of scientists. Well done.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's quite an admission for somebody who takes great joy in declaring on a regular basis that the Challenger disaster was the sole responsibility of scientists. Well done.

Thank you, sir.

I plan to wean myself off of calling everybody and anybody a "scientist," and start calling them "highly educated persons" or "educatees" or some other descriptive term.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Thank you, sir.

I plan to wean myself off of calling everybody and anybody a "scientist," and start calling them "highly educated persons" or "educatees" or some other descriptive term.

So you're now anti-education rather than just anti-science? I'm guessing you have some get out clause for pastors?

 

[AV1611VET]

So you're now anti-education rather than just anti-science? I'm guessing you have some get out clause for pastors?

If you every want to know where I stand, here it is:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

 

[Kylie]

If you every want to know where I stand, here it is:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

The problem is that this starts from the assumption that the Bible is literally true in everything it says, and there's no justification given for this assumption.

 

[AV1611VET]

The problem is that this starts from the assumption that the Bible is literally true in everything it says, and there's no justification given for this assumption.

As long as you understand where I'm coming from ...

 

[sjastro]

If you every want to know where I stand, here it is:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

1. Bible AV says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible AV says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible AV says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible AV says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible AV says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible AV to be contradicted.
Ibid.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So you're now anti-education rather than just anti-science?

It's not new.

I'm guessing you have some get out clause for pastors?

Don't count on it.

 

[Kylie]

As long as you understand where I'm coming from ...

Seems to me that you are coming from an unjustified assumption.

 

[AV1611VET]

Seems to me that you are coming from an unjustified assumption.

You don't have to agree with it, just understand it.

 

[Kylie]

You don't have to agree with it, just understand it.

What is there to understand about something that has no justification?

 

[AV1611VET]

What is there to understand about something that has no justification?

That I'm neither anti-education, nor anti-science.

See Post 91.