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Chriliman is your brother? Really?Me and my brother.
Your interpretation. What about a Young Earth or old? Global flood or not? Literal Adam and Eve, or myth?Your words.
What's the matter? Is your theology still up on the hoist?Don't hold your breath.
Chriliman is your brother? Really?
Your interpretation. What about a Young Earth or old? Global flood or not? Literal Adam and Eve, or myth?
What's the matter? Is your Theology still up on the hoist?
So you are not really brothers, and you can't speak for his personal knowledge. I didn't think so.You seem surprised. I would have thought you knew what the bible said about believers and how they are related to one another, seeing as how you are so knowledgeable when it comes to the bible.
What about a Young Earth or old? Global flood or not? Literal Adam and Eve, or myth? Are these things a work in progress for you?Your words.
Each one is unique, it would seem.It is interesting that you ask me about a child being raped.
Now let me tell you what I believe, because you act like you are all of a sudden ignorant when it comes to the Christian view of such things.
Is not "omniscient" regarding knowledge, not ability?God can do whatever He desires to do. God is omniscient.
Allegedly. Was that over billions of years, or several days?God created a world with animals and human beings.
So you believe. How do you reconcile that in your theology? Does that act of rape preclude you from entering heaven? No?God knew before He created the world that some human beings would rape other human beings.
Indeed, but I do not have a theology with which I must attempt to reconcile it with.But let me make this personal for you. My fiancee was raped when she was a little girl. Before God created the universe from nothing, He knew that my fiancee would be raped when she was a little girl.
If I stopped there and told you that was it, then it would be understandable if you thought that was a pretty lousy deal.
I have no need to hear these details, and even if I heard them, in what way would address post #774? Or is this just a red herring?But I am not going to stop there. Rather I am going to ask you if you want my fiancee to personally tell you the rest. Do you want my fiancee to tell you the rest? Maybe you will take her more seriously. Or maybe you will come up with some reason not to take her seriously. Maybe you will stay true to your scepticism and just say that it is not really my fiancee talking with you but me, lying and pretending to be her.
The ball is in your court.
So you are not really brothers, and you can't speak for his personal knowledge. I didn't think so.
What about a Young Earth or old? Global flood or not? Literal Adam and Eve, or myth? Are these things a work in progress for you?
Each one is unique, it would seem.
Yes.Is not "omniscient" regarding knowledge, not ability?
Allegedly. Was that over billions of years, or several days?
Maybe you know what the word omniscient means, seeing as how you know more than Philosophers of religion know about the subject?So you believe.
I do not have to reconcile it. One only attempts to reconcile two or more propositions with one another if they think they are somehow mutually exclusive.How do you reconcile that in your theology?
Does that act of rape preclude you from entering heaven?No?
Indeed, but I do not have a theology with which I must attempt to reconcile it with.
I have no need to hear these details, and even if I heard them, in what way would address post #774? Or is this just a red herring?
I´d rather he rambled about "the truth" and his own "rationality" endlessly.If my life were in the hands of a stranger, I would rather he love me and be willing to lay down his life for me than for him to be willing only to give me a definition of what love is.
And lack of knowledge doesn´t prevent you from pride.Knowledge without love tendeth to make man more prideful than compassionate.
Gotta love your occasional use of ancient spelling.A doctor may know well what ails you and how to cure it, but if he loveth not enough to apply his knowledge, said knowledge is of no use to you. If he loves you, then he will avail himself of all that is within his power to aid you.
Chriliman has already chimed in on my side on that, your equivocations notwithstanding.We are really brothers. And yes I can speak for his personal knowledge. Sceptical? Of course. Why not just ask him if we are brothers?
You won't. But maybe you will just because I said you won't.
To see your continued evasion? It does get old after a while. Is your theology that fragile?See previous posts.
I can only read what you guys (and gals) write.Of course it would seem that way to you. That is how you want to see it.
Yes.
And how your actions confirm it.Try to stay focused, I know it is hard when you want so desperately to convey to me your views about how inconsistent the various views of Christians are regarding origins.
#950 - you: And to what does organic life owe it's existence to?Stay focused Davian, we are not talking about origins or creationism or literal or figurative seven days. Stay focused. I am sure such a rational, learned, objective and intellectual man such as yourself can do this if he wants to.
No, I simply right-clicked on the word to check that you had the usage wrong using the built-in dictionary function.Maybe you know what the word omniscient means, seeing as how you know more than Philosophers of religion know about the subject?
What then happened to your theology with post #774?I do not have to reconcile it. One only attempts to reconcile two or more propositions with one another if they think they are somehow mutually exclusive.
Have we not had this conversation before?You know more than you let on.
Not necessarily? I've got a half-dozen exchanges going on right now, where I am being told that I will be facing [insert hell concept here] for things beyond my control, but the rapist can get a pass? Does your fiancé share your theology?Not necessarily.
A throw-away comment. That you actually made that prediction, or that it was accurate is irrelevant.But you do have a worldview which must account for such acts. What sayest thou of the rape of a child?
You are far too predictable Davian. How did I know this would be your response?
Get yourselves a room, will ya?I've never met anonymous person in person, but I can call him my brother because I see the truth of Jesus Christ in his words. This is the same truth I have in my heart. I would trust him with my family because I know he is a very honest man and a true follower of Jesus.
How could I know this without meeting him in person? Him and I are connected by one Spirit that allows us to have complete trust in each other.
I'm sure this is hard to understand, but imagine how valuable trust will be if there was ever a nuclear attack that caused a global catastrophe. Every man for themselves, except those who are in the body of Christ will find refuge from the catastrophe together.
You seem surprised. I would have thought you knew what the bible said about believers and how they are related to one another, seeing as how you are so knowledgeable when it comes to the bible.
Your words.
It is interesting that you ask me about a child being raped.
Now let me tell you what I believe, because you act like you are all of a sudden ignorant when it comes to the Christian view of such things.
God can do whatever He desires to do. God is omniscient.
God created a world with animals and human beings.
God knew before He created the world that some human beings would rape other human beings.
But let me make this personal for you. My fiancee was raped when she was a little girl. Before God created the universe from nothing, He knew that my fiancee would be raped when she was a little girl.
If I stopped there and told you that was it, then it would be understandable if you thought that was a pretty lousy deal.
But I am not going to stop there. Rather I am going to ask you if you want my fiancee to personally tell you the rest. Do you want my fiancee to tell you the rest? Maybe you will take her more seriously. Or maybe you will come up with some reason not to take her seriously. Maybe you will stay true to your scepticism and just say that it is not really my fiancee talking with you but me, lying and pretending to be her.
The ball is in your court.
I've never met anonymous person in person, but I can call him my brother because I see the truth of Jesus Christ in his words. This is the same truth I have in my heart. I would trust him with my family because I know he is a very honest man and a true follower of Jesus.
How could I know this without meeting him in person? Him and I are connected by one Spirit that allows us to have complete trust in each other.
I'm sure this is hard to understand, but imagine how valuable trust will be if there was ever a nuclear attack that caused a global catastrophe. Every man for themselves, except those who are in the body of Christ will find refuge from the catastrophe together.
Strange that you lack the gumption to respond to that post (#774)... But at least you are being honest about your lack of your response.I do not have to reconcile it. One only attempts to reconcile two or more propositions with one another if they think they are somehow mutually exclusive.
I've never met anonymous person in person, but I can call him my brother because I see the truth of Jesus Christ in his words. This is the same truth I have in my heart. I would trust him with my family because I know he is a very honest man and a true follower of Jesus.
How could I know this without meeting him in person? Him and I are connected by one Spirit that allows us to have complete trust in each other.
I'm sure this is hard to understand, but imagine how valuable trust will be if there was ever a nuclear attack that caused a global catastrophe. Every man for themselves, except those who are in the body of Christ will find refuge from the catastrophe together.
For some reason, I am reminded of this:I've never met anonymous person in person,
For some reason, I am reminded of this:
Abe Simpson: "May I have a volunteer from the audience? Yes, you, sir. You've never seen me before, is that correct?"
Homer Simpson: "That is correct."
Audience member: "Well, then how come his face is on the bottle?"
Because The Simpsons was awesome?Why am I not surprised that you are reminded of something that was on the Simpson's....
This simple sentence tells me more about you than the multitudinous posts you have written since we began conversing. If you told me this earlier, it would have saved a lot of typing.Because The Simpsons was awesome?
What does it tell you specifically?This simple sentence tells me more about you than the multitudinous posts you have written since we began conversing. If you told me this earlier, it would have saved a lot of typing.
This simple sentence tells me more about you than the multitudinous posts you have written since we began conversing. If you told me this earlier, it would have saved a lot of typing.
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