Nazi and Communist Party Endorse OWS

[NightHawkeye]

From: Nazi and Communist Parties Back Occupy Wall Street Protesters

It’s not quite the ringing endorsement they were hoping for but Occupy Wall Street protesters on Monday receive the support of the American Nazi Party, more commonly referred to as the ANP.
Also known as the National Socialist Party the group released the following statement on their website:

“[Occupy Wall Street] is TAYLOR [sic] MADE for National Socialists,” while they urge their members to “Produce some flyers EXPLAINING the ‘JEW BANKER’ influence—DON’T wear anything marking you as an ‘evil racist’—and GET OUT THERE and SPREAD the WORD!”
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The ANP isn’t the first communist movement to back Occupy Wall Street, the Communist Party USA has also backed protesters and during a board member speech on Saturday in Chicago they told the crowd:

“I bring greetings and solidarity from the Communist Party. We are here, marching side-by-side. We’ll sleep here. We’ll be with this movement ’til the very—’til we make all the changes that we know we have to make.”
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[lordbt]

Here come the trouble makers.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Here come the trouble makers.

LOL ... I've had such fun with this topic all day already, kinda figured it deserved its own thread.

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[Wayte]

The KKK Endorses John McCain | John McCain

Found within thirty seconds of searching, with another few results about the same endorsement.
Now that that's out of the way, on to my point: endorsement by a group doesn't mean jack. A group will endorse because it kinda likes the target of the endorsement, but that doesn't really equate the group being endorsed. The OWS has support of the Nazi party; I highly doubt "the death of Jews" is one of the things they're rallying for. Likewise for the Communist party and the outlawing of religion altogether(though I know there are some individuals with enough paranoia/martyr complex to believe so.)
This is nothing more than the same crap you see in grade school: "Oh wow he's hanging out with that lame kid that must mean he's lame too."

 

[Redac]

From: Nazi and Communist Parties Back Occupy Wall Street Protesters

It’s not quite the ringing endorsement they were hoping for but Occupy Wall Street protesters on Monday receive the support of the American Nazi Party, more commonly referred to as the ANP.
Also known as the National Socialist Party the group released the following statement on their website:

“[Occupy Wall Street] is TAYLOR [sic] MADE for National Socialists,” while they urge their members to “Produce some flyers EXPLAINING the ‘JEW BANKER’ influence—DON’T wear anything marking you as an ‘evil racist’—and GET OUT THERE and SPREAD the WORD!”
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The ANP isn’t the first communist movement to back Occupy Wall Street, the Communist Party USA has also backed protesters and during a board member speech on Saturday in Chicago they told the crowd:

“I bring greetings and solidarity from the Communist Party. We are here, marching side-by-side. We’ll sleep here. We’ll be with this movement ’til the very—’til we make all the changes that we know we have to make.”
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I realize that you will not listen to a word anyone else says, but I need to repeat this every place I see it: National Socialism (Nazism) is not Communism.

 

[NightHawkeye]

I realize that you will not listen to a word anyone else says, but I need to repeat this every place I see it: National Socialism (Nazism) is not Communism.

LOL. Then I will again correct you with what I did say ...

Nazism <--> National Socialism

Pretty simple ... you can paint it, you can polish it, you can dress it up ... but it still stinks.

Facts are stubborn things, aren't they?

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[Redac]

LOL. Then I will again correct you with what I did say ...

Nazism <--> National Socialism

Pretty simple ... you can paint it, you can polish it, you can dress it up ... but it still stinks.

Facts are stubborn things, aren't they?

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Does North Korea calling itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea make it such?

 

[Gishin]

LOL. Then I will again correct you with what I did say ...

Nazism <--> National Socialism

Pretty simple ... you can paint it, you can polish it, you can dress it up ... but it still stinks.

Facts are stubborn things, aren't they?

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Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea Democratic, a Republic, or for the people?

 

[Gishin]

Does North Korea calling itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea make it such?

I should really read the whole thread before I post.

 

[Redac]

I should really read the whole thread before I post.

I like to think it just emphasizes the point.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

LOL. Then I will again correct you with what I did say ...

You did imply that the American Nazi Party is a communist movement though. Maybe it wasn't intentional but it's there:

The ANP isn&#8217;t the first communist movement to back Occupy Wall Street

Personally I'm glad the Communist Party is doing the right thing and supporting occupy wall street. I think the American Nazi Party is so irrelevant as to not deserve any comment one way or the other. They are using this event to try get some publicity. It's pretty much a one man party.

 

[TalkaboutScience]

I realize that you will not listen to a word anyone else says, but I need to repeat this every place I see it: National Socialism (Nazism) is not Communism.

National Socialism is very similar to Communism, like Communism it incorporates a form of left-wing Socialism hence the name. The DAP, which later became the NSDAP (Nazi Party) was originally a far left-wing lower class labourers party. Hitler like the Marxists opposed aristocracy and banned the higher classes, bourgeois etc. Both the Marxists and Nazis were also anti-monarchist. Communism and National Socialism are very similar. Infact a hybrid exists - National Bolshevism.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Does North Korea calling itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea make it such?

 

[Ishraqiyun]

National Socialism is very similar to Communism, like Communism it incorporates a form of left-wing Socialism hence the name.

I'm sure there are areas of similarities between communism and nazism just as there would be between democracy, communism, theocracy, constitutional republic, monarchism, etc... There are also major differences. They don't all reduce down to a single "thing." People tend to do that to ideologies they disagree with. Lump them all together as some monolithic other.

 

[Redac]

National Socialism is very similar to Communism, like Communism it incorporates a form of left-wing Socialism hence the name.

National Socialism and Fascism as a whole are extremely anti-Marxist.

The DAP, which later became the NSDAP (Nazi Party) was originally a far left-wing lower class labourers party.

They weren't exactly what I'd call "far left-wing" at that point; you could call it "right-wing socialism", but that's neither here nor there. When Hitler took charge of the party, they moved away from all that into the nationalism, racism, and anti-Semitism that the Nazis were known for. Note that these beliefs were always there from the start, but they became emphasized after Hitler took control of the party in 1920.

Hitler like the Marxists opposed aristocracy and banned the higher classes, bourgeois etc. Both the Marxists and Nazis were also anti-monarchist. Communism and National Socialism are very similar.

Nazism rejects egalitarianism and trade unionism, puts in place a stratified and merit-based class society, and allows the retention of private property. National and racial identity were to be the things that would allow class harmony in Germany. This is nothing like communism.

Infact a hybrid exists - National Bolshevism.

Take a look at the flag of Russia's National Bolshevik Party. Look familiar?

Now let's look at part of their platform:
"The National Bolshevik Party advocates the creation of a Russian-dominated empire that would include all of Europe, as well as northern and central Asia.[3] It is vehemently opposed to American foreign policy, and believes that a Eurasian empire would be an essential counterbalance to capitalist global domination."

The article does state that they've moved a bit past this, but the point is that it's Russian nationalism dressed up with communist symbolism. It's also antisemitic, as their former leader once stated "a Jew masquerading as a Russian nationalist is a sickness, a pathology" .

Think of it this way: Stalin is to National Bolshevism as Hitler is to Nazism.

You'll find that communists and others on the far left view National Bolshevism as a perversion of communist thought. From what I've read, they see it as no better than Nazism or any other kind of Fascism.

 

[Gishin]

How? You're not making any sense?

 

[Redac]

(snip)

It seems you've missed the point, which was that what an entity calls itself and what it actually is can be very different.

 

[NightHawkeye]

It seems you've missed the point, which was that what an entity calls itself and what it actually is can be very different.

You mean, kinda like change:

Say, how's that change working out for ya, Redac?

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[Gishin]

You mean, kinda like change:


Say, how's that change working out for ya, Redac?

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Now you change the subject.

 

[Redac]

You mean, kinda like change:

Say, how's that change working out for ya, Redac?

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Way to completely avoid the topic at hand.