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Natural selection v Intelligent design

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Ouch - way to Godwin the thread...

This kind of thinking about whole areas of science necessarily falls into the conspiracy theory bucket.
 
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I posted a recently discovered bat precursor earlier, did you miss it?
 
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Denial, steve. Denial.
 
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You never said exactly what you think a missing link is; but, whatever, it's a non sequitur; fossils are not paranormal.


Yes, but paranormal research is science, and so is the search for intelligent alien life. What does paranormal research, aliens and missing link fossils have in common? Fox Mulder.



Do you know how hard it is to fake your own death? Only one man has pulled it off: Elvis.

--FOX MULDER
 
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Yes that part is bad science, the scientist found that out and announced it. So apart from that, everything is right.

Science isn't in the business of proving god exists, it can only deal with facts. And once they start going down the route of proving god's. They have to decide which one. There are so many versions.

Evolutionists have observed all the evidence, you can observe it as well. And when they find a mistake, they correct it.

On most people in the modern world, an appendix is useless. Otherwise we wouldn't live after removing them.

So how did all the species get here, and what proof can you give us to back that up?
 
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Agreed, but they know, those species existed. You want to deny they did. So let's go to later Hominids. Where in your creation story does it say we and Neanderthals lived on Earth at the same time, in the same places, and met?
 
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Do you normally post by drive-by jabbings or did you get around to figuring out how your use of the word "information" makes no sense the last time you posted in this thread?

Well first off I was addressing a misconception of another poster and NO I do not agree with YOUR interpretation of what information is...I still see (in this Universe) many examples of information (instructions or laws governing processes of formation and determining function) as being required for matter and energy to respond in just the way they do (like physical and chemical laws for example)....
 
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I'm quoting a paper so they are the ones you reckon are getting it wrong.

Nowhere in those papers does it say that you will get the same protein fold from every amino acid sequence.


Different amino acid sequences will produce different protein folds. It is those sequences that natural selection chooses between.
 
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That's my aim.
Such as?

Well like just after I could no longer remain an agnostic (having experienced some things outside the natural while in a group of people who also experienced it) a lifelong condition I was to be medicated for for the rest of my life, upon hearing His still small voice I was told I was healed of this, believed it and threw away these meds, and was in fact healed of it, and have not taken medication for it for decades, my PH is fine and I have never had another Kidney Stone...

Now before the twist this is not an endorsement for people to throw away their meds...I take medications now for other issues and He has never told me to throw these away and they are wonderful scientific discoveries that keep me alive...but this is just one example...
 
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I posted a recently discovered bat precursor earlier, did you miss it?
Yes thanks I must have missed it. Sometimes I dont get all the messages into my email and I miss some now and again. I have heard of this discovery in my research but didn't think much about it. It is another example of how evolution assumes things and grabs onto anything that will possibly fill in the gaps missing. Bats lack transitionals and there is nothing showing any gradual progression. So this discovery of a smaller middle ear bone in a bat fossil is being made into a big deal because it can give the evolution of bats a possible transitional feature. But what they dont tell you is that there are bats today that dont have echolocation anyway. So all this may be is one of them.

Besides all the rest of its features are completely formed as a modern day bat. So you would think that along with a gradual transition in echolocation there would be other features that also were missing or show a transition. The one that mostly comes to mind is the long digits the bat has for making its wings. It is said that it evolved from a creature that had normal sized digits. So we would expect to see something somewhere with the gradual progression of longer and longer digits. But there is nothing but fully formed bats that suddenly appear in the fossil records. They are much the same 50 or 60 million years ago when they first appeared as they are today. This is the same for many animals.
 
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